The Framers Forum

hi. the problem is NOT my mitres. they are all ok, and just to confirm, my Morso blades are hollow ground at cathandon, and my brevetti blades are sharpened by the suppliers, they have also ben callibrated correctly. My frames are joining fine, no gaps. my frames that are stained are not opening up,...

Good Afternoon, Me again, same problems as before, just less.... :? I seem to have sorted out the problem with my mitre joints opening up when using Celly or Gesso.... BUT, i'm still getting corners opening, and i really want to nail this one on the head. I've tried different glues, and am sticking ...

Good afternoon folks.

hope you are all well. I'm searching for some heat activated Tape for hingeing heavier prints in mounts. this also has to be of conservation quality.....
we have used it before, but i can't seem to find anything now... does anyone have any idea where i could look ?

R

i need to look through ALL the catalogues...not just the ones we use everyday !!!

Thank you !!!

Raph

Afternoon all....

Can anyone help me find a supplier for this moulding ? We have it as a sample, but now can't find it anywhere......

Right. we seem to be moving in the right direction.... eventually. i was having a conversation with the man from Mylands, as we were discussing the issue again, one of our guys had got the wrong color on a frame, as it happened it was the offending bottle of stain.... he cursed a bit and then got ou...

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Hmmmmmm... sounding familiar.... We've never had this problem before, but the symptoms are exactly the same... the stain does not get absorbed and the pores are all highlighted.... same here. but...... i grabbed some older stock from the moulding we're struggling with, and hey Presto !!! no hassles....

Morning All, Sorry about the quiet on the western front, i had leave. you know, beer festivals to be visited, beer to be consumed... ;-) Back to the issues at hand. this is all part of a larger issue... As i've said before we are having a problem with our tulip, although after reading and chatting t...

Morning all,

I was wondering if anyone here could point me in the right direction of a quality supplier of predominantly Ash and Tulip ( I know Tulip is bad, but what can I do? )

R

i'm tracking down a container of the cascamite as we speak... boss says we had some... the offending moulding is tulip, 47mm high, 21mm face, box frame. I've tried a new glue as well today, same frame, different glue, its a polyurethane glue... we'll see in a day or two, i'll have it treated as norm...

:P Yay Monday !!! Prospero..... when using biscuits do you place them quite close to the face of the frame or a few cm under the face ? i tried placing them about 1cm under the face of the frame, this did not work as we still had a few mitres opening.... i then placed them closer to the face, this s...

good question........

we primarily use tulip and have endless issues..... and we use it a lot !!!!

r

Ok, back to where we started.... I've been doing a bit of research on the net, and seem to have more answers than i had questions.... :roll: it seems that celly reacts to everything... our finishers have always blamed it on the joining... now, i'm doing the joining and have taken offence to that... ...

hmmmm,

this won't be the first time that tulip has caused us hassles...... it does seem to warp quite quickly as well....

i need to sit down over the weekend (over a few beers ) and think this one out.....
there seem to be a few factors worth pondering...


r

90% of the time the offending wood is tulip. we don't spray any other woods as the finish is not that great.....

hi again, pic not possible today, camera at home, phone camera not good enough. as far as drying times for glue is concerned, the frames usually have about 1 week before we start sanding them as we usually cut and join about 2 weeks ahead.... some of the offending frames have had longer..... i'm goi...

sorry, was trying to sort something out....
the undercoat used for the celly is no12 pre cat primer white high build from mylands.....
it looks like both are cracking....

r

none, we cut and join the frame with wedges and biscuits, that then gets sanded to a smooth finish. we then use a thin 1st coat undercoat, sand that back (this is done 3 or 4 times) so in essence we have 3 to 4 coats of undercoat on, we then spray the celly on, wait for it to dry, spray again, repea...

Yea, all suited and booted for the celly, and we only spray the gesso on in very urgent circumstances, we use the good old brush applied method all the time. when spraying gesso you dont get the consistency needed for guilding.... thanks for the warning regarding the celly, we have a well ventilated...