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Postby DaveJ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:57 pm

Hi again guys, does anyone regularly send framed pieces out using a courier company or by Royal Mail? Any recomendations on courier services. Also packaging...I've seen the telescopic boxes, anyone use these in combo with bubble wrap or any other stuff!?! Cheers guys, DJ.
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby vintage frames » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:44 pm

I send out all my frames by courier - I don't do local! APC couriers are the carrier of choice because they have a reputation of carrying the goods more carefully than most. £11.50 gets me overnight to anywhere in the UK (except N.Ireland and remote Scotland).
For very big frames, then a used bicycle box is good. Your local cycle shop is glad to get rid. Use that blue film that painters use to mask windows, to protect the glazing. Otherwise buy a pack of double thickness corrugated cardboard sheets and make your own cartons. These can be surprisingly strong.
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby DaveJ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:47 pm

Thanks VF that's very reasuring as I started an account with APC although havent used them yet, The Alternative Parcel Company, I believe they carry goods containing glass around the conveyer belt systems in cages, excellent! Regarding the blue film do you mean to keep the glass together in case it breaks??
Bicycle boxes, excellent idea, I'm thinking good for big mirrors. Thanks for your input.
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby vintage frames » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:05 pm

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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby DaveJ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:12 pm

Lovely, thanks for the advise.
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby Rainbow » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm

Can I ask what happens if the glass breaks? Do you have to get the picture back to replace the glass and then re-send it? And is it covered by insurance?
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby DaveJ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:42 pm

When I first enquired with APC I think they said they dont insure though that may have changed, I think some do. I will do a personal repair guarantee.
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby vintage frames » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:14 am

If the glass breaks, then I have to replace it. I can ask for a reverse collection by the courier to have it brought back for repair. All a bit of a pain but always part of the service. Best way is to prevent it happening - fronting the frame with MDF and double walled corrugated cardboard.
It's all down to cost and risk. If I insure then with the extra cost it might be better to hand the delivery over to Fragilistics. I could also save on the time taken to package up the delivery.
Having said all that, I've never had a broken frame with this company.
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby DaveJ » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:35 am

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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby Rainbow » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:32 pm

Thanks for the info :)
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby Not your average framer » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:13 am

The gallery were I first worked as a picture framer used APC for deliveries and usually everything arrived safely, but there was this one framed limited edition which got wrecked twice and then there was only one more print available and we packed that one between two 2" slabs of expanded polystyrene, wrapped with bubble wrap, corrogated paper and 6mm MDF. That one survived! One of the two that were wrecked had tyre tracks across the package and even frame was destroyed.

Packaging can be lots of trouble, not all of us have much space for doing the packaging and for storing the materials, so it takes a lot of thinking about. Prior to this job that got wrecked twice, the normal routine was to tape the glass with a criss cross pattern of vinyl tape, wrap the frame in large bubble bubble wrap, protect both sides with 2.5mm MDF and finally wrap with a double layer of corrogated paper. I don't think that there is a completely foolproof way of packing anything so that it can't be damaged, if someone does something stupid. You just have to pack things sensibly and hope for the best.
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby Steve N » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:36 pm

When I first started framing, we had the same problem as Mark (above post) with some pictures we were sending out, that stopped when a courier drive gave me some advice, put a sticker on the parcel with THIS WAY UP with an arrow, so the package had to stand and not laid down, and it worked, our damage ratio went down, the reason was according to this driver was , if you don't have the sticker on, then the package will be laid down on the bottom of the cage/trolleys and everything else is piled on top, even 45 gallon oil drums
Also don't write FRAGILE on the package as they are the ones that get thrown about :sweating:
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Re: Postal Packaging.

Postby DaveJ » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:10 pm

Cheers guys, the postal enquiry is for music related photos in basic black frames nothing of value completely replaceable so no stress although obviously I wanna avoid breakages, Thanks for your input very helpful.
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