Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Ask for and give assistance

Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby Not your average framer » Tue May 15, 2018 11:00 pm

I'm in the process of moving out of my shop into a temporary location and I don't have much room. Unfortunately if i use the Morso with the left hand extension fitted, I won't be able to open the door to get in and out of the room. I don't have any choice about this, so I will need to manage without this and wondered if anyone has any experience of using a Morso like this or maybe any suggestions how I can cope with this in the best way possible.

Many thanks in anticipation,
Mark.
Mark Lacey

“Life is short. Art long. Opportunity is fleeting. Experience treacherous. Judgement difficult.”
― Geoffrey Chaucer
Not your average framer
 
Posts: 7365
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:40 pm
Location: Glorious Devon
Location: Devon, U.K.
Organisation: The Dartmoor Gallery
Interests: Lost causes, saving and restoring old things, learning something every day

Loft

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby GeoSpectrum » Wed May 16, 2018 1:02 am

Can you fit a small extension, made out of wood?
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity
User avatar
GeoSpectrum
 
Posts: 1557
Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:49 pm
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby kuduframes » Wed May 16, 2018 6:33 am

A moulding support stand, Lion 3101 may help.
Also comes in very handy on bigger frames
How long are you in the temporary location?
kuduframes
 
Posts: 133
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:09 pm
Location: Ewshot, Hampshire
Organisation: Kudu Frames
Interests: Art, photography

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby MITREMAN » Wed May 16, 2018 7:05 am

Make a shorter extension out of wood and bolt to the machine as long as its level it will help.
At the other end make a lip and a hole where you can add a stud or bolt to attach a temporary wooden arm(quick release so you can use door)the other end make a wooden T support for the arm to rest on.
If you can't do this you will have to saw moulding with a hand saw, just over size allowing for mitres and hold and trim shorts bits, just need extra hand strength to hold moulding level and flat when feeding in from left.

Good Luck :D
Mitreman
MITREMAN
Jan Stanlick GCF Picture Framing Consultant & Teacher
Working in association with Framers Equipment Ltd, Northampton http://www.framersequipment.co.uk
User avatar
MITREMAN
 
Posts: 423
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:05 pm
Location: Norfolk
Location: Norwich
Organisation: Framers Equipment Ltd
Interests: Fishing, Sports, Keep-fit, Playing 5-A-side Football, Supporting Southend United, Computing, Cooking, Ale drinking, Eating out, Music and Concerts, DIY, Socialising.

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby Not your average framer » Wed May 16, 2018 12:54 pm

Unfortunately, there will not be room to add a wooden extension, because there space is already too tight. So I'm thinking about something that hinges open a bit like an "A frame" like you see on pavements outside of shops, cut out of two pieces of 12mm plywood, with a hole in each piece lower down and a knotted length of string.

It's not worth spending much on this as I don't know how long I will be in this location, but it's only going to be a very short time. I've never used a Morso without a proper left hand extension and was sort of wondering, if it would present any problems. I have not measured the space available for cutting a full size 3 metre length of moulding, but I will almost certainly need to cut it in half to be able to manage in such a small space.

Thanks for the replies,
Mark
Mark Lacey

“Life is short. Art long. Opportunity is fleeting. Experience treacherous. Judgement difficult.”
― Geoffrey Chaucer
Not your average framer
 
Posts: 7365
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:40 pm
Location: Glorious Devon
Location: Devon, U.K.
Organisation: The Dartmoor Gallery
Interests: Lost causes, saving and restoring old things, learning something every day

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby drpeej » Thu May 17, 2018 8:36 am

kuduframes wrote:A moulding support stand, Lion 3101 may help.


Cheaper versions are available from DIY stores and will work just as well.

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p43126

I removed the roller and made it wider with a length of spare moulding. Also very useful as a 'third hand' to support large frames when underpinning

20180517-20180517_082922.jpg
20180517-20180517_082922.jpg (1.94 MiB) Viewed 310 times
Peter Harris GCF (APF)
www.framemount.co.uk
drpeej
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:29 pm
Location: Warwickshire
Organisation: Frame Mount
Interests: Photography, Skiing, Cycling

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby drpeej » Thu May 17, 2018 8:41 am

Not your average framer wrote:I've never used a Morso without a proper left hand extension and was sort of wondering, if it would present any problems.


I would have thought that the weight of the moulding unsupported on the left side would cause it to lift at the cutting blade and lead to inaccurate cuts
Peter Harris GCF (APF)
www.framemount.co.uk
drpeej
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:29 pm
Location: Warwickshire
Organisation: Frame Mount
Interests: Photography, Skiing, Cycling

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby JonathanB » Thu May 17, 2018 8:42 am

Mark -
If it's any help I've got the same space problems and have always used the roller stand as suggested by Kuduframes - great bit of kit, very robust and does a good job. Also has the advantage of bring easily folded and put away. Mine is from Wessex but they look much the same.
Jonathan
JonathanB
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:43 pm
Location: Romsey
Organisation: Dovetail Framing
Interests: Travel, music and gardening

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby Not your average framer » Thu May 17, 2018 9:03 pm

drpeej wrote:I would have thought that the weight of the moulding unsupported on the left side would cause it to lift at the cutting blade and lead to inaccurate cuts


I was thinking that too! Not sure, but it sounds possible.
Mark Lacey

“Life is short. Art long. Opportunity is fleeting. Experience treacherous. Judgement difficult.”
― Geoffrey Chaucer
Not your average framer
 
Posts: 7365
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:40 pm
Location: Glorious Devon
Location: Devon, U.K.
Organisation: The Dartmoor Gallery
Interests: Lost causes, saving and restoring old things, learning something every day

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby Not your average framer » Thu May 17, 2018 9:10 pm

Thanks Jonathan,

This hopefully is only for a short period while waiting for another vaccent shop at the right rent to be available in my town. Money may be tight during this time and I'll be back to the normal left hand extension as soon as the right shop is available, so I'm looking for cheap and temporary.
Mark Lacey

“Life is short. Art long. Opportunity is fleeting. Experience treacherous. Judgement difficult.”
― Geoffrey Chaucer
Not your average framer
 
Posts: 7365
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:40 pm
Location: Glorious Devon
Location: Devon, U.K.
Organisation: The Dartmoor Gallery
Interests: Lost causes, saving and restoring old things, learning something every day

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby MITREMAN » Fri May 18, 2018 7:13 am

Could you buy a large hinge, drill out the holes bigger to take the arm bolts and bolt the hinge to the end of the machine and add a MDF level short arm that flips up, then add a hinge and a short leg on the other end.
:idea: : Buy a second hand door from reclaimed centre/gumtree, cut a hole in it to pass moulding through, add a flap, then a hinged arm on the outside of door. Replace door with the original when you move to new shop. More work but will makes life easier.
The problem with no left arm is the moulding will always drop causing bad mitres unless you have a strong left hand to keep it pushed down, you will get away with it if you mitre oversize then trim back a shorter length to the required size.
You could simply make 4 frames from any flat timber add hinges to make two A frames and drill a hole add a rope restrictor, then a flat board, like scaffold board on top at the correct height, just like a trestle table cheap and portable. :D
MITREMAN
Jan Stanlick GCF Picture Framing Consultant & Teacher
Working in association with Framers Equipment Ltd, Northampton http://www.framersequipment.co.uk
User avatar
MITREMAN
 
Posts: 423
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:05 pm
Location: Norfolk
Location: Norwich
Organisation: Framers Equipment Ltd
Interests: Fishing, Sports, Keep-fit, Playing 5-A-side Football, Supporting Southend United, Computing, Cooking, Ale drinking, Eating out, Music and Concerts, DIY, Socialising.

Re: Using a Morso without a left hand extension

Postby Jo » Mon May 21, 2018 11:35 am

My Morso is situated in a back room off the main shop, and I do not have an LH extension fitted as it would block access, plus I can only use it if the door to the other room is open so the moulding sticks through it. Just on the wall by the side of the door I have a short piece of wood that hinges down, which supports long lengths, and does the job perfectly!
Jo
 
Posts: 61
Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:40 pm
Location: Hinckley, Leicestershire
Organisation: The Frame Game
Interests: Would like to have some if I wasn't at work all the time!


Return to Help!




 
Picture Framer's Trade Directory
Picture Framer's Oracle

 
Members Map Header
Members Map
More info
Resources Header
Contact Forum Admin
Directory
How to include an image in your post
Cove Box Designer
Download Designer
General supplies
Glass
Machinery
Mounts/Mountboard
Artists
Conservators
Prints
Software
Tuition
UK Medals
Framers Forum Live!
Support Header
Crimson
White
Green
Violet
Advertise Header
Forum Banner Ads