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Postby Benhen » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:14 pm

Old subject, apologies, but can anyone recommend glass for a 50X40cm oil. Requirements: cheap, easily cuttable, no tone and very little reflection.
For a dark toned oil painting. UV is not a big problem as the oil pigments are robust.

With thanks,
Ben

Robo, am hoping for info and your good experience.
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Re: Glass

Postby JFeig » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:53 pm

Anti-reflective glass is a premium value-added glass. So is low iron glass. Both are much costlier from the glass mills than basic float glass. The glass mills and/or converters start with basic glass (regular or low-iron) and then add hi-tech coatings. it is 2-3 times the price of regular glass.
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Re: Glass

Postby YPF » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:13 pm

You are asking for a quality product yet want it cheap - not always compatible.

If you are prepared to pay and to avoid wastage why not get Wessex or Centrado to supply a piece cut to size? If you are not worried about high UV protection then something like Centrado’s AR 70 would probably be OK.

Also consider a suitably deep spacer to keep the glass off the painting.
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Re: Glass

Postby Benhen » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:13 pm

Thanks, YPF.
TBH I'll probably just stick to normal glass, the priority stuff being so expensive... people quite like looking at themselves after all.
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Re: Glass

Postby kuduframes » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:03 pm

Benhen wrote:Thanks, YPF.
TBH I'll probably just stick to normal glass, the priority stuff being so expensive... people quite like looking at themselves after all.
Regards to the doggies.


Just checked the Wessex cut to size calculator, a piece of 40*50cm UV70 comes in at £11.80 (plus vat and delivery of course)
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Re: Glass

Postby prospero » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:12 am

UltraVue 70 good as anything on oils. :D

The cost?

I charge roughly x10 the cost of std float. Sounds drastic put like that.

My prefered pitch to a customer is that it may add say, £30 to the cost, but the main reason you have a painting/print/whatever
is to look at it. The AR glass allows you to see the thing better, thus derive more enjoyment from it and therefore get more of
your money's worth.
If you have it on the wall for 20 years that's £1.50 a year. What can you buy for £1.50? :P
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Re: Glass

Postby Benhen » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:38 am

Great so uv 70 is the way to go.
Mind, two years ago at the Manchester art gallery, sitting in their caf, surrounded by lovely paintings.... except every single one of them was peppered with little green spots, about the size of tennis balls. It was the non-reflective glass in the frames turning the cafe’s reflected lights into tennis balls! Not a good look :Slap: .
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Postby Bobble » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:43 am

For £1.50 you can get curry sauce for your chips or 30 Flying Saucers!
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Re: Glass

Postby prospero » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:12 am

:lol: It's not Non-Reflective. It's Anti-Reflective. :wink:


Pot-Noodles at my local Co-op cost more than 1.50. :roll:
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Re: Glass

Postby Benhen » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:20 am

Prospero, ur a pedant, but we love you :D
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Re: Glass

Postby prospero » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:15 pm

:inlove: :lol:
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Re: Glass

Postby JFeig » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:06 pm

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Re: Glass

Postby YPF » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:37 pm

Jerome,

Like they said - “never work with children or animals”

One of my dogs will wait at the start of an agility run and when I give him the command to start he will just sit there looking at me!
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Re: Glass

Postby Not your average framer » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:08 pm

Years ago, it was common to use a scooped liner rather than a flat slip, which had the benefit of spacing the oil painting further away from the glass and preventing the oil outgassing when continuing to dry out over the years and depositing a ghost of the painting onto the inside face of the glass.
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Re: Glass

Postby Benhen » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:18 pm

Interesting, Mark.
Reminiscent of the way new perspex magnetically sucked acrylic paint from the surfaces in the ? 60s/70s.
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