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Multiple apitures

Posted: Wed 21 Nov, 2018 6:04 pm
by Ed209
Have had a job come in they want 12 random sized family photos mounted and framed overall size TBA but looks like its going to be around 700 mm Sq.
I only have a Keencut and have cut out nine apertures in the past successfully (was one of my very first jobs) but this lot is doing my head in so am planning on sending it to someone with a CMC is there software that can work out the positioning and apitures and what is the process to give it the information to do so.

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Wed 21 Nov, 2018 6:19 pm
by poliopete
Hi Paul :D '

That type of mount cutting is right up my street :lol: I love it. Give me a pile of random photo's or fifty ciggy' cards that run vertically and horizontally and I am as happy as the proverbial pig in - :giggle:

If only I was nearer you would not need someone with a CMC

That's enough trumpet blowing for one day. I hope someone closer comes along and can help you.

Peter

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Wed 21 Nov, 2018 10:48 pm
by kuduframes
Is it the actual layout of the 12 (presumably) different size prints that is giving you grief or the prospect of cutting the apertures on your keencut?
If its the latter then maybe I can help out with some tips.
I now use a Valiani Matpro and have'nt used my keencut for maybe 3 years or more but I used to do lots, and I mean lots of multi aperture mounts on the keencut. The basic problem is that you need to be able to measure a margin far greater than the normal margin guide will allow and the way around this is to measure or reference the cut from the other, ie RHS of the mount. The other alternative is to pencil in all the cuts by hand.

Using the squaring arm which has a scale for measuring to the straight cut blade, add another scale on the edge which will give a measurement to the bevel cut blade path. Be aware of the blade path position, I think I initially used a trimmed down Ikea paper tape measure stuck down onto the edge of the squaring arm. Its a bit hazy now but I do have access to my old keencut and can take a pic to show what I mean. Once you have this in place you only need a dimensioned sketch of the mounts but detailing the cutting margin from the rhs of the mount for all but the LHS of the apertures immediately on the left side of the mount.

If this does not make any sense put it down to the late hour and a brace of (famous) grouse

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Thu 22 Nov, 2018 10:05 am
by prospero
I've done a few of these and generally they are 90% thinking and 10% doing. Lay them out and shuffle them to arrive at
a pleasing arrangement. I usually marked out the back in pencil (remembering to reverse if not symetrical) and cut the windows
on a manual cutter. Forget start/end stops. You have to eyeball it. As long as you keep the window side under the cutter bar you
won't get an accidental reverse bevel. It's like sex and cake icing - you have to bloody concentrate. :lol:

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Thu 22 Nov, 2018 1:59 pm
by Ed209
What's Sex? :D

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Thu 22 Nov, 2018 2:31 pm
by prospero
It's like icing a cake but more messy. :roll: :lol:

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Thu 22 Nov, 2018 5:50 pm
by grahamdown
could possibly help - i have a Gunnar.

Regards,

Graham

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Fri 23 Nov, 2018 8:08 am
by Steve N
I would do it for you as I have a cmc, but the Postage & Packing charge of a 70x70cm would be very high

If yo have done 9, well 12 is only 3 more, just lay the images on the bench, move them around t'l they look good, then mark out the back of the mountcard and cut them, learn to cut 'by eye' with out any stops or guides, once you have, then this type of work is as easy as fallying off a log :clap: :rock: :giggle: :sweating: :Slap:

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Fri 23 Nov, 2018 8:33 am
by Ed209
Thanks for replies, suggestions, and offers of help I am on this occasion farming it out to Wessex FA. When I did the nine they were all the same size and uniform so relatively easy using the guide and finger stop on the Keencut If I had more time I would give it ago as I quite enjoy the challenge and satisfaction of doing things like this, Your probably all thinking the amount of time I have spent talking I could have done it by now [emoji3]


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Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Fri 23 Nov, 2018 9:48 am
by Steve N
Ed209 Wrote
" Your probably all thinking the amount of time I have spent talking I could have done it by now [emoji3]"


Yes! :giggle: :lol: :Slap: :nod:

Re: Multiple apitures

Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2018 1:47 pm
by kartoffelngeist
Yeah, I also love doing things like this.

12 isn't much tricker than 9 ;)

Glad you got it sorted though...