Polyvine golden pine wax finish varnish

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Polyvine golden pine wax finish varnish

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I've bought some of this, to do a job for a customer and was expecting this to be a nice pale yellow colour. Well, it is a little bit yellow coloured, bit it's got a fair bit of grey in it as well. Is it really meant to be quite like this? Frankly, I'm a bit disapointed.
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Re: Polyvine golden pine wax finish varnish

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Whilst I've never used the stuff and don't know how it's meant to look, have you tried shaking up the bottle or stirring the contents with a small stick? If that's no better, then stir in a bit of yellow ochre, burnt sienna, and raw umber. The product has an acrylic base so you could use acrylic paint colours.
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Re: Polyvine golden pine wax finish varnish

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I'm a bit disappointed, the customer wants a pale golden pine finish and by the time I've coloured it up a bit it, it won't be all that pale. I know thatt the anitique pine always seems to have a bit of grey in it as well, perhaps it's normal practice to put a bit of grey into pine finishes, if so I don't know why that would be.
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Re: Polyvine golden pine wax finish varnish

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I think it's an interesting exercise to go back to first principles on this. The Polyvine product is a varnish with a stain or dye in it to give a golden pine colour. If it was that alone, then by applying multiple coats, all that would happen is that the colour would get darker and darker. Not really what you'd want if you were looking for a pale pine effect. So in this instance the manufacturer has added some grey pigment and when this is painted on it never gets absorbed by the wood but sits thinly on the surface. In doing so, the pigment reflects back the light from the surface of the pine and gives the impression of a pale finish. This means that however many coats are applied, even though the underlying wood might get darker or deeper in colour, the wood surface remains light in colour. I think tradional furniture restorers call this blinding out the grain.
If you look closely at some pale antique pine you will see a thin sediment of pale grey between the lines of wood grain.
You could try fixing this by squeezing a dollop of white acrylic paint onto a white plate and carefully stirring in some yellow ochre, raw sienna and black. After a bit of trial and error you should have a colour to resemble pale pine. Just add some to the Polyvine to get the effect you like.
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Re: Polyvine golden pine wax finish varnish

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When I tried some of this on a bit of scrap wood the other day, it looked much too grey for my liking, but the greu has almost disappeared now, perhaps I'll get away with it after all. Most strange! I don't know how that works!
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