benches made to size

Discuss Picture Framing topics.

PLEASE USE THE HELP SECTION
WHEN SEEKING OR OFFERING HELP!
Post Reply
User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Wed 15 Dec, 2021 9:02 am

I’ve been working with extruded aluminium on a side project and have been thinking that as I have the saw and kit to make them perhaps there is a market for custom sized work benches for framers?

Similar to the Keencut benches https://www.lionpic.co.uk/p/41381/Keenc ... 11m-Cutter

They can be made any size and configuration and would come in a self-assembly kit ready to assemble and have the mdf tops fitted.(not supplied)

Any thoughts?
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

Not your average framer
Posts: 11716
Joined: Sat 25 Mar, 2006 8:40 pm
Location: Devon, U.K.
Organisation: The Dartmoor Gallery
Interests: Lost causes, saving and restoring old things, learning something every day
Location: Glorious Devon

Re: benches made to size

Post by Not your average framer » Wed 15 Dec, 2021 1:58 pm

That sounds like a great idea! I hope that it will work well for you!
Mark Lacey

“Life is short. Art long. Opportunity is fleeting. Experience treacherous. Judgement difficult.”
― Geoffrey Chaucer

JFeig
Posts: 1129
Joined: Thu 23 Sep, 2004 8:31 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan USA
Organisation: minoxy, LLC
Interests: non-fiction knowledge
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by JFeig » Wed 15 Dec, 2021 4:13 pm

A very small market if you only look at the framing business.

A plus would be a height specification option for us with back problem.
Jerome Feig CPF®
http://www.minoxy.com

User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Wed 15 Dec, 2021 4:54 pm

Good idea about the height option , I might add add a sloping option as well. I’m also not after a lot of sales, it’s just me here and I do plenty as it is…
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

Justintime
Posts: 1315
Joined: Sat 26 Sep, 2015 8:48 am
Location: North Pembs
Organisation: George the Framer
Interests: Art photography gardening framing
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by Justintime » Wed 15 Dec, 2021 4:56 pm

I'm with Jerome. Our benches are 100cms high, a comfortable height to stand at without leaning over, for me at 5'11". Very hard to find worktables this height, mine are on blocks..

fusionframer
Posts: 576
Joined: Thu 02 Sep, 2010 8:16 pm
Location: Badminton
Organisation: Fusion Picture Framing
Interests: framing
Location: Badminton

Re: benches made to size

Post by fusionframer » Thu 16 Dec, 2021 9:06 am

Nice idea Alan,

A possible other small but really useful market is to offer mitre workstations. I have made a couple in my time which i have generally rushed as i am always chasing my tail. By chance, i had watched a video a week ago of a guy in the states make one and given the adjustable nature of the height for the mitre saw, had thought what good idea it was.

Here is the link



Similar to framers benches, not a big market, but very useful.
www.fusionframing.co.uk

Never trust a dog with orange eyebrows.

User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Thu 16 Dec, 2021 10:34 am

Thankss. Yes I’ve see those. I’ve working out prices to see if it’s viable for
Me.
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Thu 16 Dec, 2021 11:07 am

It’s looking like £600 or so for a 1.2x2.4m bench with shelf. Supply your own 18mm mdf.

Hummm what do you think?
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

fusionframer
Posts: 576
Joined: Thu 02 Sep, 2010 8:16 pm
Location: Badminton
Organisation: Fusion Picture Framing
Interests: framing
Location: Badminton

Re: benches made to size

Post by fusionframer » Thu 16 Dec, 2021 5:42 pm

I don't think that is a bad price, but how long do you reckon it would take for a customer to put it together. I could imagine it would be quite quick.

A decent table would take a reasonable time to make, and can be awkward for one person, so if yours is quick, it is time saved working on my clients work and earning income.

Also can they be fitted with castors?

Nick
www.fusionframing.co.uk

Never trust a dog with orange eyebrows.

Not your average framer
Posts: 11716
Joined: Sat 25 Mar, 2006 8:40 pm
Location: Devon, U.K.
Organisation: The Dartmoor Gallery
Interests: Lost causes, saving and restoring old things, learning something every day
Location: Glorious Devon

Re: benches made to size

Post by Not your average framer » Thu 16 Dec, 2021 6:12 pm

It is such a great idea. I bet it will be a really superb quality product. What can I say, it sounds really great to me!

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Mark Lacey

“Life is short. Art long. Opportunity is fleeting. Experience treacherous. Judgement difficult.”
― Geoffrey Chaucer

User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Thu 16 Dec, 2021 9:25 pm

Ok, I’m thinking of a modular system with a core of 1.2x1.2m, 1.8x1.2m and 1.2x600mm benches which can be mixed and matched. They bolt together or are extendable to form whatever arrangement you want. Casters are an option. MDF tops and shelves bolt to the frame from the underside. Indents/cut outs section for underpinnner and bolt down option for mount cutter and a bench end guillotine fitting. Available in silver or black anodised.

Easy enough to design and specify but not cheap. Any takers….?
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

Not your average framer
Posts: 11716
Joined: Sat 25 Mar, 2006 8:40 pm
Location: Devon, U.K.
Organisation: The Dartmoor Gallery
Interests: Lost causes, saving and restoring old things, learning something every day
Location: Glorious Devon

Re: benches made to size

Post by Not your average framer » Fri 17 Dec, 2021 9:02 am

Hi Alan,

Slight deviation here, but have you considered making something to locate and apply press fit hinges and struts to backing boards, for small volume use?

A cheap drill press could be used to provide the necessary fixing pressure and guide parts to locate the backs, strut legs and hinges in place with machined MDF parts. MDF parts could be CNC machined using your CNC routing machine!

A pressing head to clamp into the electric drill clamp position on the cheap drill press could also be CNC machined from MDF.

It need not be a complicated products at all. What do you think? It might be a good next project.
Mark Lacey

“Life is short. Art long. Opportunity is fleeting. Experience treacherous. Judgement difficult.”
― Geoffrey Chaucer

User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Fri 17 Dec, 2021 11:59 am

No, not for me. I generally make things I have an interest in or use for. It could be a good project for yourself? You could make this entirely out of wood with a small bit of 6mm plate alloy and an old forstner bit adapted for the job
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

User avatar
Steve N
Posts: 3021
Joined: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 2:32 pm
Location: Somewhere Staple Hill Bristol
Organisation: Frontier Picture Frames ltd
Interests: Walking our retired Greyhound,art, falling asleep on sofa in front of the telly
Location: Now in Bristol
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by Steve N » Fri 17 Dec, 2021 1:20 pm

I would make them to the standard 18mm MDF board sizes, that way the customer does not have to trim the board down by 10mm, and the board will drop into place
Steve CEO GCF (020)
Believed in Time Travel since 2035

Proud to sell Ready Made Frames
http://www.frontierpictureframes.com
http://www.designerpicturemounts.com/

User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Fri 17 Dec, 2021 4:03 pm

Yes that’s the plan. I’m going to make a small one for a router
In my workshop to see how things go together. I’ll
Report back…
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

fusionframer
Posts: 576
Joined: Thu 02 Sep, 2010 8:16 pm
Location: Badminton
Organisation: Fusion Picture Framing
Interests: framing
Location: Badminton

Re: benches made to size

Post by fusionframer » Fri 17 Dec, 2021 8:27 pm

I may be in the market for a couple of smaller sized ones, but at some point in the first quarter of next year. I upgraded (in terms of power) a couple of machines and this led to me needing to get a new dust extractor. This in turn required me to change ducting to a wider diameter.

I have botched bits in order to get machinery usable so jobs can be worked o , but i am hoping i can get my workshop properly organised and in particular will need outfeed tables for a couple of machines.

Will be interested in your report on your table.

Nick
www.fusionframing.co.uk

Never trust a dog with orange eyebrows.

grahamdown
Posts: 222
Joined: Thu 16 Jun, 2011 11:43 am
Location: Hollingbourne, Maidstone
Organisation: The Village Framer
Interests: Photography, Mountainbiking

Re: benches made to size

Post by grahamdown » Tue 21 Dec, 2021 7:38 pm

Hi,

Have you thought of making one with vertical partitions for mount board storage?

Regards,

Graham

User avatar
GeoSpectrum
Posts: 2191
Joined: Fri 01 Oct, 2010 11:49 am
Location: Lincolnshire
Organisation: Ashcraft Framing
Interests: Framing, cycling, Family, x-country skiing, wine, art
Location: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: benches made to size

Post by GeoSpectrum » Wed 22 Dec, 2021 8:53 am

Yes, there are lot of options that can be built in.
Alan Huntley
Ashcraft Framing
Plain wood frames, Inlay/tray frames and painted frames for artists.
http://www.ashcraftframing.co.uk
Twitter: @AshcraftFrames
Our Blog: http://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/
Doing nothing is a much underrated activity

Post Reply