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Postby ImagesLen » Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:03 pm

I'm looking to start a framing business from home and would like some advice concerning what level of investment in framing hardware I should consider. The volume is not planned to be high and space is limited at present. Should I go for a Morso Cutter or consider mitre chop saw and mitre cleaner. I already have an internediate level Mount Cutter. What level of Underpinner should I consider Manual looks fine.
Do any of you guys have anything for sale that would fit my requirements.
Thanks for the input
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Postby Merlin » Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:06 pm

This is not an easy question to answer. re volume not planned to be high. The old adage "You pay for what you get" and "Spend to save" are two quotes that were given to me when I started at home some 7 years ago. I partly listened and it cost me.. We got a Morso. still going strong. a Keencut Mountcutter. still going strong.. my mistake was in getting a cheapy underpinner... well £250 cheapy..!! it required constant realigning and the occassional hammer to straighten it out... It fell apart after some 3 years.. We have now got a Cassesse 89 manual underpinner and for us it is wonderful. strong and consistant.
Pay as much as you can afford for these items. At least, should you decide that framing is not for you, the resale value will be greater, than going for a cheap set up where you will/may not recover your expense.
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Postby Ardfinnan Crafts » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:59 pm

I quite agree with John. I bought someone else's workshope contents when I started. I very quickly learned that it is worth while looking for the best you can afford. The only piece I still have is the Morso and the backboard guilotine, though, if I could I would replace that with an Excaliber. Anyone know of one going seconhand?
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Postby Alan James » Wed May 05, 2004 2:27 pm

I am three years into building upmy business workshop. I was lucky to have a reply from an advert in my local Friday-Ads newspaper, and bought underpinner, Morso and Keencut underpinner for £1200. The secret is to be patient and buy bits at a time. Use Ebay. There are real bargins in there to be had. Do a search for "picture framing" and also search on "Morso" - I have made a killing on a Minigraff 4 + compressor for £700. I advertise locally in newsagents, and have had a better repsonse then the yellow pages and web. Start getting your income up, even if it means a lesser quality underpinner, Once you get some money in, you can buy up. I easily turned over £20k in the three years,a nd I do it part time, along my fukll time job! buying stock. Just buy in what you want for the job. Make sale frames with the waste, and get down the boot fair!! Anywhere that you can convert your materials into hardcash. Please email me if you would like further help
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Postby John » Wed May 05, 2004 5:25 pm

Welcome to the forum Alan, you have given sound advice for anyone starting out.

Are you intending to give up the day job and go into framing full time?

Just noticed that interesting comment from Ardfinnan Crafts from the previous post regarding the guillotine for cutting the backing board. A have always used an electric rotary cutter, but now that I'm setting up a new workshop, and the RotaTrim is no longer available, I had thought of using a guillotine. Perhaps I should look at the Excalibur first?
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Postby ImagesLen » Wed May 05, 2004 6:06 pm

Thanks to every one for their input it is much appreciated. As stated I am continuously looking around for good hardware. I have just purchased a very little used pistorious manual underpinner for £150 from a photographer thats packing up and only used it for his own frames. He gave me good instruction and gave me some moulding to practice with . A great guy. Next is the Guillotine . As I'm doing fairly small frames is the top mounted one a satisfactory solution as the foot operated models are collecting a premium. Input would be appreciated

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