Trade waste disposal costs
- Ian Kenny Framing
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Trade waste disposal costs
Just received my quarterly bill for Trade Waste, and it's one of those 'hidden costs' of running a business that not many people think about. £252 per quarter for a 660l wheeled bin to be emptied once a week. This is the bill for recyclable waste. General waste is a separate 660l bin emptied once a month, and with its own separate bill.
I think I am correct in saying that the rules for waste disposal are a bit tighter in Scotland than the rest of the UK, but just wondering about the cost. What do others pay for their waste disposal?
I think I am correct in saying that the rules for waste disposal are a bit tighter in Scotland than the rest of the UK, but just wondering about the cost. What do others pay for their waste disposal?
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
We have 3 bins, 240 litre each - 2 are recycling (one for glass, one for cardboard) and 1 is for general waste and the prices have just been sorted for the year.
The general waste is the most expensive at £8.40 plus VAT per collection. The other 2 are £6.10 plus VAT per collection. We have fortnightly collections on glass and general waste and we've just upped it to weekly for cardboard. So with VAT we will be paying about £975 this year for our trade waste disposal.
Our rules and regulations are pretty tight too, not sure how they compare exactly with the situation up in Scotland. We have also had an inspection a few years ago by the Environment Agency doing spot checks on every business in the area to check they had trade waste disposal contracts in place. Quite a few were caught out and were fined.
The general waste is the most expensive at £8.40 plus VAT per collection. The other 2 are £6.10 plus VAT per collection. We have fortnightly collections on glass and general waste and we've just upped it to weekly for cardboard. So with VAT we will be paying about £975 this year for our trade waste disposal.
Our rules and regulations are pretty tight too, not sure how they compare exactly with the situation up in Scotland. We have also had an inspection a few years ago by the Environment Agency doing spot checks on every business in the area to check they had trade waste disposal contracts in place. Quite a few were caught out and were fined.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
About £80 + VAT per month for a 1000l bin once a week, at one shop, we 'sell' all our mount board scraps as aart material to a lady who does stuff with them and I still have to take some card waste to our loacal asda (I know we shouldn't)
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We have two 1100 litre ones, one general, one recycling, both emptied every other week - not sure exactly how much but in my pricing software's hourly rate calculator it's down for £100 per month - with 50% calculated in to framing.
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2 x 240l wheelies 1 collected weekly 1 collected fortnightly( Dry Mixed Recyclables & General waste)
£38.81 per month inc vat
£38.81 per month inc vat
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27 + Vat a month for 240 ltr bin emptied every week for recycled waste - including glass. unrecyclable stuff we put out in sacks that I buy for £100 for a couple of rolls of them. Not sure how many on the roll. I try and re use large sheets of card (truevue boxes etc) for packaging. We recently changed companies as the last lot (Grundon) seemed to be getting more expensive month by month. New company (Smiths) were a lot cheaper and I notice almost all of my neighbours have started to use them.
Grundon used to send me letters telling me I should be sorting my waste - when asked to provide suitable bins they would always reply that they didn't do that sort of collection in this area. When Smiths were asked the same question they just said as long as it fell within the terms of recyclable they didn't mind. Glass wasn't on the list.... they still didn't mind.
Grundon used to send me letters telling me I should be sorting my waste - when asked to provide suitable bins they would always reply that they didn't do that sort of collection in this area. When Smiths were asked the same question they just said as long as it fell within the terms of recyclable they didn't mind. Glass wasn't on the list.... they still didn't mind.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
Float glass is not recyclable, except as rubble.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
We have 2 1100l wheelie bins, one for general waste (including glass) and the other for plastic/paper recycling ,both are emptied weekly and as we have a new contractor in town we have just negotiated it down to £30 per week ( we were paying £45.00 a week) including vat for both to be emptied.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
It's interesting about the float glass, we've never had a problem with them taking it in a dedicated glass recycling bin. It is certainly charged as recycling and not as general waste. We've used 2 different companies since we've been here and both of them were happy to take it, and they know it is float glass.
And like Robo, we do of course have it included in our pricing software so that it becomes part of our hourly rate charge.
And like Robo, we do of course have it included in our pricing software so that it becomes part of our hourly rate charge.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
Float glass is perfectly recyclable if collected separately. It just can't be recycled back into sheet glass and instead goes into aggregates.
I am amazed at people admitting to less than 100% compliance with waste regulations in a public forum where their business name is also published. The mods might like to assist them by making some deletions.
I am amazed at people admitting to less than 100% compliance with waste regulations in a public forum where their business name is also published. The mods might like to assist them by making some deletions.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
Float glass is recyclable. http://jbrecycling.co.uk/waste/flatglass
The problem is it can't be mixed with regular 'bottle' glass. Our lot, Viridor, used to collect our float along with bottle glass, then told us we'd need to put it into general waste. They have told us that it is then sorted out at the depot.
The problem is it can't be mixed with regular 'bottle' glass. Our lot, Viridor, used to collect our float along with bottle glass, then told us we'd need to put it into general waste. They have told us that it is then sorted out at the depot.
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That makes total sense, thanks for the explanation.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
They'd have a job sorting ours, it's almost turned in to dust - excellent therapy!
Re: Trade waste disposal costs
My 1100 wheelie bin is about £28 + VAt per lift. My current provider not only are expensive but service is poor with them constantly changing collection days which quite often means they are emptying an empty bin and charging me for it. So I have found a new provider however£13.50 per lift. The only problem is that after 7 yrs apparently i am still locked into a rolling contract which means I still have 9 months left on it un be known to me. However the threat of a bad review on social media means I will get released in the next few months.
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Ian - we are switching to viridor next month (prices I quoted earlier ) - due to new legislation they have changed their tarrif a little as you now have to pay for rental of the bins -
In Edinburgh the council are stopping collecting trade waste and stipulate your bins can only be out on street for 60 minute window for collection regardless of your trade waste vendor
In Edinburgh the council are stopping collecting trade waste and stipulate your bins can only be out on street for 60 minute window for collection regardless of your trade waste vendor
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Thats funny Grahame I am swapping and not having to pay rental.
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Hi Grahame - our council stopped collecting trade waste 8 or 9 years ago, and contracted it out to private firms. The first was Enviroscot, which was taken over a few years ago by Viridor. Even the local 'recycling centres' which used to be council run are now run privately too. They used to accept trade waste on a charge per load, but they don't do that anymore. We also have to pay for rental of our bins. Fortunately, we don't have the time restrictions on bins being out, but then Edinburgh was always 'posher' than us westerners!
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
660 litre bin at £11.60 per empty. That is with the local council - they are the cheapest and most efficient. Only issue is they don't do recycling but take absolutely everything so long as it is listed on my Duty of Care Waste Transfer Note.
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
Jamesnkr wrote:
I am amazed at people admitting to less than 100% compliance with waste regulations in a public forum where their business name is also published. The mods might like to assist them by making some deletions.
We would happily recycle our float but our waste transfer agents aren't interested in collecting it separately, even though we produce nearly 1/4 tonne of waste glass a week . We have tried to get it recycled but in our neck of the woods, like many other things, you cant always get what you want
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Re: Trade waste disposal costs
I am obviously quite fortunate up in N.E. Fife. I have just paid my fee for cardboard collection for this year.. £192.48 for all paper and cardboard waste.. as long as it is flat packed (or rolled in the case of corrugated packing) the council pick up from the shop front every week... and even come in to remind me if I have forgotten to put it out in time... recycling and general waste I purchase sacks from Fife council at £2.12 & £2.04 respectively and also collected weekly.. I make other arrangements for my glass waste with a friendly glass merchant close by although the council will provide a wheelie bin for this if I had space to store it