Daler Xtra Tak

Grahame Case · Post by **Grahame Case** » Wed 28 Nov, 2007 2:10 pm

Anyone got an idea What PH value Daler Xtra Tak S/Adhesive Board has?

I'm trying to win an argument here, we have 25 sheets, and i want to get rid of them because we don't use them any more since we got Artcare restore.

but Mother has said that the Daler board is PH Neutral and still a good quality. allbeit a much more permanent adhesive.

personally i wouldn't trust it as far as i can throw it.

Bagel Framer · Post by **Bagel Framer** » Wed 28 Nov, 2007 2:31 pm

Not sure on that one Graham, but aren't Mother's always right?!

Martin Harrold · Post by **Martin Harrold** » Wed 28 Nov, 2007 8:53 pm

Grahame,

Daler Xtra Tak is only sold for normal mounting and does not make any claim to be any kind of conservation board. Great for cheap posters for the kids bedroom or for commercial displays, that kind of thing.

In fact, the 'white glove' brigade will always say that nothing of any real value should be mounted down in any way.

Adhesive-free mounting is the very best, closely followed by T-hinges made with wheat starch paste and Japanese paper.

I've no knowledge of Artcare Restore, but I'll be taking a look.

Grahame Case · Post by **Grahame Case** » Wed 28 Nov, 2007 9:31 pm

Martin Harrold wrote: Adhesive-free mounting is the very best, closely followed by T-hinges made with wheat starch paste and Japanese paper.

I've no knowledge of Artcare Restore, but I'll be taking a look.

thank you for clearing that up Martin, she now owes me the £10.00 i bet her.

i'll agree by far the safest mounting method in any case is the archival plastic strips and corners that you sell, we use this for the large majority of our work.

Bainbridge Artcare Restore is our prefered fixing method now for posters and other items which it would be impossible to mount any other way.
( incase you haven't experienced it, it is a lightweight 5mm thick foamcore board with heat activated adhesive which is fully reversible)

Roboframer · Post by **Roboframer** » Wed 28 Nov, 2007 9:51 pm

Grahame Case wrote: thank you for clearing that up Martin, she now owes me the £10.00 i bet her.

i'll agree by far the safest mounting method in any case is the archival plastic strips and corners that you sell, we use this for the large majority of our work.

Bainbridge Artcare Restore is our prefered fixing method now for posters and other items which it would be impossible to mount any other way.
( incase you haven't experienced it, it is a lightweight 5mm thick foamcore board with heat activated adhesive which is fully reversible)

Your bet was already won Grahame - the adhesive used would write off any ph value of the board it is on - but don't throw it - it's great for price labels and signs around the shop.

My red - this is not true and I could give some links to back that up.

Grahame Case · Post by **Grahame Case** » Wed 28 Nov, 2007 10:07 pm

ah yes John,

you've caught me using gross generalisations again,

there is a suitable mounting method for every occasion, and its up to the Picture Framer to make sure they are using the correct item for each occasion.

i'd love to have a talk with you at spring fair regarding your 3d framing methods, such as the lovely one you did for that photographer.

i feel you are a fountain of knowledge and you could help guide us up north who have only recently been seeing such intricate jobs come through our doors.

Moglet · Post by **Moglet** » Wed 28 Nov, 2007 10:42 pm

Grahame Case wrote:...i'd love to have a talk with you at spring fair regarding your 3d framing methods, such as the lovely one you did for that photographer....

Now, that's a seminar I'd definitely love to sign up for!

Grahame Case wrote:...i feel you are a fountain of knowledge ...

Hear, hear!