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Post by jeyelle » Sun 20 Mar, 2005 6:58 am

Hi There

Just joined the board and looking forward to reading everyones opinions and thoughts...........

Also on the lookout for a reasonably priced Morso(Preferable....) or Hansen Guillotine. Tried ebay, and the way things are going, shouldn't be too long before they are fetching more second hand than new......
Maybe Morso are the new Diablo......
Buy it in December for £1200, and sell it second hand in July for £4,000.. :D
Anyway would be interested should anyone in the UK, be able to help.....

Best Regards and once again looking forward to reading the boards

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Post by John » Sun 20 Mar, 2005 8:43 am

Hi Jeyelle,

Good to have you on board.

Like you, I have also noticed that it pays to keep your wits about you when dealing on eBay, and never assume that the items there will be better value than you can obtain elsewhere.

It can often be worthwhile to mention to your suppliers' representatives that you are looking for equipment. Very often they will hear about stuff that other framers are selling and are happy to put you in touch with them without getting involved with the actual sale.

Please forgive me for asking the obvious.
Maybe Morso are the new Diablo......
What's a Diablo?
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Post by jeyelle » Sun 20 Mar, 2005 7:26 pm

Hi There John

Many thanks for the advice, much appreciated......
As for The Diablo.....
It's a Ferrari...... :lol:

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Post by John » Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:23 pm

Ah so,

It's understandable that I wouldn't know about such exotica.

After all, I'm a picture framer.
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Post by SquareFrames » Tue 22 Mar, 2005 12:28 pm

Hi Folks,

I have just had a long talk (email) with Claus from Morso and the already great machine will be made even better in the very near future. Their research department are working on some problems as we speak.

1. New rebate supports, made for deeper mouldings, and made slightly longer to accomodate some problems framers have.

What I am emailing him back with to make it even better, is the following:

1. The fence should have a drilled metal dowel, to ensure that once the fences are perfectly set, the fences dont move (Cassese have this)

2. the Rebate supports should be closer to the blades, say about 1/2 - 1mm away from the blade, this will solve a whole lot of problems, of little bits of moulding being left .....

3. I had thoughyt of spring loaded rebate supports, until I hear that cassese have lots of problems with theirs and too much can go wrong.

Anybody got any other suggestion gow to make this good old workshorse...even better??? Let me know.

Steven
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Post by Elfyn Hughes » Tue 22 Mar, 2005 1:36 pm

Dear Steven
Will these improvements be capable of retro fitting to older machines?
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Post by SquareFrames » Wed 23 Mar, 2005 7:12 am

Hi Elfyn,

To be perfectly honest, I do not know, but I will ask and get back to you ASAP.

How old is your machine?

I think, if the running trough for the rebate supports is the same, they should work, but please do not quote me on that, having said that, last Wednesday we had a Branch meeting of the Guild here, and covered complete maintenance of a Morso that just happened to be over 40 years old (it was born in 1962) and changed the bottom blades that included the rebate support trough, and it worked???? Is that anywhere near an answer without committing myself?

Talk soon,

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Post by Dermot » Wed 23 Mar, 2005 7:19 am

My understanding is that the basic design of the Morso has not change and that any new parts will retro fit……I had a 1952 machine and all new parts for the current machines would fit it.

Rgs

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Post by SquareFrames » Wed 23 Mar, 2005 7:25 am

Hi Dermot,

Dont you sleep? Thats what my understnding is...but like most people nowadays, I am non committal until I know that facts. I used to be indecisive...now I am not so sure.

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Post by John » Wed 23 Mar, 2005 5:16 pm

Anybody got any other suggestion gow to make this good old workshorse...even better??? Let me know.
The arm that moves the cutting head back and forth could be made of something a tad harder so that the ratchet does not wear it down to nothing (and eventually right through!)
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Post by jeyelle » Fri 25 Mar, 2005 6:41 am

Hi Everyone

Seems to hve gone a bit astray........
Still asking in a meek manner "Any got a morso, they no longer need"....
Anyway, hope everyone has a great Easter
All The Best

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Post by SquareFrames » Fri 25 Mar, 2005 12:57 pm

Hi Jeyelle,

I think, although not sure, that everyone changing tack ever so slightly was a subliminal message that, basically there are no second hand Morso's available. You could try the following people:

Framers Corner - Leicestershire, 01530 516925, ask for Sam Cook
Framers Equipment - Northhamptonshire, dont know any details at the present, I am on a different computer
Mita-Craft in Lincoln, again, cant get at their details
CP Productions Ltd, Northern Ireland +44 28 92601436, ask for Colin

Also try the recent edition of ABt, Art Business Today, try looking on the following website, they have a for sale section.. http://www.fineart.co.uk
or
The PictureBusiness trade magazine

Dermot a regular on this forum has, or had one a few weeks ago, try emailing him

Unfortunately (for you) second hand Morso's are hard to get hold of, you can get them if people retire, upgrade, etc., but most tend to hold onto good machines, ....they are likened to an old fiddle, the older they are, thet better they get......

Good hunting!

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