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Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Artisan76 » Thu 20 Jun, 2019 3:49 pm

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Hi, does anyone recognise this brand and model of underpinner, please?
I bought it a while ago but I am unsure what wedges are compatible with it. Any suggestions?
I did buy it with a box of PILM Divisione Meccanica wedges but they are too big for my current project and I can't source that brand in the UK.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by grahamdown » Fri 21 Jun, 2019 2:53 pm

Origin were based in Croydon but closed probably 20 years ago. i believe they were bought out by Wessex so they may be able to help you.

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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Not your average framer » Fri 21 Jun, 2019 3:29 pm

That is not Origin's own make of underpinner. I know what the Origin underpinner looks like and that's not it. You've already tried the PLM wedges which are much bigger, so my assumption would be that they are probably "universal" sized wedges. Therefore, I would imagine that you next move would be to buy a packet of universal wedges and check that they work.
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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Tudor Rose » Fri 21 Jun, 2019 6:28 pm

If you contact Wessex at their Leatherhead branch, some of the Origin people are working there. If you email a photo to Garry White, he was one of the trainers at Origin and he'd probably be able to tell you.

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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Not your average framer » Fri 21 Jun, 2019 8:19 pm

Origins own underpinner did not have tripod legs, it had a rectagular frame made out of square section tubing and it had to be screwed to one of the sides of your work bench. I have a 1997 Origin catalogue and it includes their own underpinner and many others' all with pictures and none of them look like the picture shown in this thread. I'm not sure where the mention of Origin comes from in this particular aspect. It's also not one of the Euro range of underpinners either.

I don't know what make of underpinner you have got, but that's not one I've ever come across and I've seen most makes of underpinners.

BTW, Origin sold the PLM air powered underpinner and wedges, but there's no mention of a PLM manual underpinner in their catalogue.
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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Artisan76 » Fri 21 Jun, 2019 8:25 pm

Thank you all for your varying, sometimes conflicting, views regarding what make and model my underpinner could be. You've all given me plenty of avenues to explore in order to find my answer.
I will report back with any progress.
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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by prospero » Sat 22 Jun, 2019 4:28 pm

I'm baffled too. It has some features that a reminiscent of the manual Euro range, but some things are completely different. :|

** Not 100% certain, but I'm willing to bet the Cassese 'Universal' nails will work in it. :wink:
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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Justintime » Sun 23 Jun, 2019 12:14 am

I thought the Origin Framing Supplies sticker was a dead giveaway myself... :giggle:

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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Not your average framer » Sun 23 Jun, 2019 8:25 pm

I would think that too, the difficulty is determining what the clue is telling us. I've been doing a bit of digging around and come up with a little bit more and I think the clues could be indicating a Propinner after looking at the upper part of the propinner 10 varient sold by Origin. Origin were suppliers for the Propinner uderpinners. This is not completely certain, but so far it's something that might be right.
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Re: Unidentified Underpinner

Post by Artisan76 » Wed 21 Aug, 2019 12:26 pm

Hi all. Thanks again for all your help. I tried a universal size wedge in this underpinner but they didn't work. It kept jamming. From further investigation, I have discovered the wedges I have that fit/work are 11mm wide. Does anyone know if there is are companies that make a wedge that wide? Thanks again

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