Airlines in the workshop

[fusionframer]

I use 9.5mm bore hose with my axminster staplers. Never had a misfire with it.

Nick

[vintage frames]

Fusionframer goes for big-boy stuff.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that but I think Justin's question was probably him thinking how big a dia. does he need for the curly cable.

I would be thinking more in terms of lightness and flexibility, especially when using a hand-tool.
I run a small pneumatic palm sander off a 100litre Hydrovane compressor and only using a lightweight 6mm dia. curly pipe. The sander drinks air copiously so as to have the Hyrovane running continuously, so the small pipe is able to deliver all the air the sander requires.

[Fruitini]

In preference to hijack a topic rather than start another thread I wondered if I could move this discussion on to nail guns, in particular brad guns and headless pinners. Its high time I added one of these to my arsenal. I am finding a real trend for narrow tall mouldings at the moment (particularly R&H A354 - all wood types) and finding the traditional method of mitre vice and hammer not only time consuming but a little brutal and often leading to less than satisfactory results.

My preference would be for a weapon that does both brads and headless pins, and quality is important - I plan for this to be the one and only I ever buy. Research has led me to the Omer 12.40. Any one have it? It appears that will shoot both types. Apparently 18 gauge. Is that suitable for pinning these type of mouldings? Brads or headless pins?

[fusionframer]

Hi Fruitini,

Not used omer, but used both 18ga brads and 23ga pin nails for fixing big thin mouldings. I have 2 separate guns, a stanley 18ga nailer and axminster pin nailer (25mm pins max). I have had them for years with no issues. You can switch guns without dropping air pressure so switching is easy.

I now have 18v nailers which are as good as the air guns. A Milwaukee 18ga gun and a makita 23ga pin gun.

If you wanted to give a nail gun a go and see if it works, you would be more than welcome to try the 2 air guns. I am your way the week after next and will not be needing them anytime soon (in any case i can use battery ones).

Cheers

Nick

[Fruitini]

Hi Fruitini,

Not used omer, but used both 18ga brads and 23ga pin nails for fixing big thin mouldings. I have 2 separate guns, a stanley 18ga nailer and axminster pin nailer (25mm pins max). I have had them for years with no issues. You can switch guns without dropping air pressure so switching is easy.

I now have 18v nailers which are as good as the air guns. A Milwaukee 18ga gun and a makita 23ga pin gun.

If you wanted to give a nail gun a go and see if it works, you would be more than welcome to try the 2 air guns. I am your way the week after next and will not be needing them anytime soon (in any case i can use battery ones).

Cheers

Nick

Hi Nick. Wow what a kind offer. I’d love to take you up on that. I never realised Badminton was so close! I need to be in Malmesbury in a month or so so can drop them back to you at the same time. Would be very useful to try before I buy!

[fusionframer]

Hi Fruitini,

Really not a problem. If i call you sometime this coming week, i will know when i am heading your way. Most likely monday or tuesday of following week.

Cheers

Nick

[Justintime]

Ok, so as is usual for me, I have only just received and fitted the airline that Tudor Rose suggested. Nine months is not bad for me!!
Next question is that the airline for staplers requires lubrication, a few drops into the airline is what Omer suggest. My next purchase was an anti static air blower gun, which obviously doesn't want oil or moisture anywhere near it if it's going to be blowing dust off work and glass.
What does everyone do about this? A separate airline with an inline filter? Thoughts/Answers??

[vintage frames]

Right- now think deeply about this.
Your air-line doesn't need any oil in it.
So, what you do is - disconnect your stapler, drip in a little oil into the air in-take, reconnect your stapler and away you go.

[Justintime]

Yes, I came to the same conclusion, after I had dripped a couple of drops into the airline as they suggested....

[vintage frames]

Two drops of oil every 3 or 4 months would not be too often.
Too much oil will only result in an oily mist coming out the stapler air exhaust.
Very messy.

[Justintime]

My question is really about the anti static airblower. Should I attach one of those 10 micron filter units to the gun?

[vintage frames]

Your compressor would already have a filter unit on its output and even an air filter on input.
I don't see what gain you would achieve by adding more filtration.

[Justintime]

See my post at 5.41pm

[vintage frames]

Ah!
If you dropped in the oil at the compressor end of your air-lines then you could splice in a T piece and run your blower gun off that through a new curly hose.
Running the compressor for 15min or so should blow out most of the oil anyway.

[Tudor Rose]

Ok, so as is usual for me, I have only just received and fitted the airline that Tudor Rose suggested. Nine months is not bad for me!!

It’s been that long that I’d forgotten I’d recommended it! Glad you’re getting stuff sorted though.

[Justintime]

Update:
I'm going to put one of these pcl filters from Screwfix on the all singing and dancing Antistatic air gun when it arrives.

To be sure to be sure.
I'll sleep just as easy as with the £200 Lions super filter.

[Fruitini]

Any recommendations for compact retractable airline hose reels? The Axminster one Jo suggested in this thread is sadly no longer available. I tried the cheap yellow ones available on Amazon but they are rubbish. Size was perfect but very poor build quality and each one I tried sprung a leak, I think I sent 3 back.