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Large image 1600x600mm

Post by chaos »

Hello all

I have been asked to frame a limited edition print 1600 x 600mm (small edition size)
The customers would like to use a deep frame - L3370 Mono 19mm wide x 44mm deep with a spacer
I guess I need a subframe?
Drymount it or similar? - is there anything long enough & I don't have a press
3mm Artglass?
Can I use 5mm ply as a backing? Or is there something more suitable?
What hanging system? Heavy duty hangers attached to the subframe?

What else do I need to consider that hasn't occurred to me yet?

Not daunted at all!! :shock:
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Re: Large image 1600x600mm

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Have you considered acrylic products for glazing or plastic fluted sheets for a backing?
A roller press for mounting as used in the sign industry.
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Re: Large image 1600x600mm

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A limited edition and a small edition. Why would you drymount?
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Do you know the value of it?
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Re: Large image 1600x600mm

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framesink wrote: Tue 17 Mar, 2026 10:06 pm A limited edition and a small edition. Why would you drymount?
If the customer wants it perfectly flat and isn't concerned with potential loss of future value.
You're right though. It's really important to have that discussion.
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Something that size with such a tiny frame will look terrible IMO.

Anyway - a frame that tiny will of course need a sub frame or bracing in some way, but it it’s still not fit for the job as the spacers are unsafe - glazing that size and weight sitting on maybe 5mm wide spacers? I’d refuse to do it.

Stuff that size I’ve done has usually been in a double frame
eg a 30 mm or so inner acting as a spacer and a much wider outer, so the glazing sits in the outer rebate and also rests on thd inner frame. The two frames can be reversed to give a mounted sort of look, wide frame in place of mount.

Most customers wanting skinny frames on huge artwork are thinking of cost. If I absolutely HAD to make this work the labour costs would scare them off.
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Re: Large image 1600x600mm

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Thank you all for your replies.

I told the customer I don't want to drymount it. I prefer anything in I put into a frame to be in the original condition if it ever comes out of the frame. (Apart from sports shirts which should just be burned! :D ) I just panicked about the length and thought drymounting would be he only thing I could do to prevent ripples when I posted on here.

How do I prevent ripples? Will normal t bars be suitable or should I hedgehog it?

I have considered acrylic glazing. I have considered cross braced fluted polypropylene as a backing - more investigation needed.

I understand the comments about the spacers & glass - would the same consideration be needed with acrylic glazing?

The value of the piece would be well into the hundreds but not the thousands.

JKX - thank you for your opinion - but you have no idea what was on my workbench. A large double frame would overshadow the piece completely - and also not what the customer wants. The customer is not concerned with price.
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Acrylic could bow, slightly but maybe enough to pop out of the lip of the frame. A solution for that is to route out the rebate to create a wider lip - and increase the width of the spacer, but not in that moulding.

Here’s another thought - use acrylic, at least 5mm for that size, and put the artwork against it. Unless exposed to rapid and extreme fluctuations in temperature and/or humidity, it shouldn’t be a problem, condensation-wise, and now supported over the whole area instead of just a skinny spacer, unlikely to bow as long as thick enough.

back with spliced 8ply mount board if you can’t get a single sheet big enough, then double thickness correx, then subframe.
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I think I posted this in my thread I posted asking about dry mounting, but this is what I do with my limited-edition prints (many of them at least as big). Clearly, my opinion is different from the ones saying that small frames and dry mounting are a bad idea for large prints!

https://imgur.com/a/NAyqMzDImage

Sorry about the link - I'm not sure how to post pictures here.
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chaos wrote: Wed 18 Mar, 2026 1:03 pm The customer is not concerned with price.
If the customer's priority is how it will look on the wall and not about future value, then I would mount it onto a cotton "rag" mountboard. Hedgehog is best and float it with a shadow gap or not
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nickbatz wrote: Wed 18 Mar, 2026 8:58 pm I think I posted this in my thread I posted asking about dry mounting, but this is what I do with my limited-edition prints (many of them at least as big). Clearly, my opinion is different from the ones saying that small frames and dry mounting are a bad idea for large prints!

https://imgur.com/a/NAyqMzDImage

Sorry about the link - I'm not sure how to post pictures here.

Imgur is blocked in the UK
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