HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
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Re: HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
Thank you all again.
Robo and his font of knowledge, great stuff many thanks!!
I am ready to get cracking now, although just the moulding choice is the only issue and where to get it from. The carriage costs and being around ready to greet the carrier is a bit of a pain.
I have found some Daler-Rowney card in frosted silver I think will work through a laser printer for the plague. I tried it on the ink-jet and there was some smudging going on.
Ian (Pinkybanks) give me a call.
Fineedge - When you say burnt, you mean laser printed on?
Thank you all again
Robo and his font of knowledge, great stuff many thanks!!
I am ready to get cracking now, although just the moulding choice is the only issue and where to get it from. The carriage costs and being around ready to greet the carrier is a bit of a pain.
I have found some Daler-Rowney card in frosted silver I think will work through a laser printer for the plague. I tried it on the ink-jet and there was some smudging going on.
Ian (Pinkybanks) give me a call.
Fineedge - When you say burnt, you mean laser printed on?
Thank you all again
Re: HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
Hi Deepfineedge wrote:Fineedge - When you say burnt, you mean laser printed on?
the writing was initially on paper and then made a normal photocopy thereof except on transparency instead of paper ( we did use a laser copier )
Alan
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Just wondering how you got on with your project.
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Hi Ian
Thank you for your interest.
The day job has been quite busy and that is what pays the mortgage, so not a great deal of time has been spent on the project I am sorry to say. Thankfully the customer is in no rush.
I really liked Robo's frame on frame idea, but I have gone down the route of a plain, painted strip wood sub box, which I will overlay with an outer frame attached using fletcher twin points and screws. I have an idea to use Robo's system on something else, so it will not be wasted.
The sub frames are made and painted, shirts are stretched and over their formers, just need to start on the stitching / tab gun work. Choose and cut mountboard, assemble the main fascia / outer frame with glass, mount medals, printed plague and bang it all together. I am nervous about the cut and build of the main frame, I cannot make a mistake in the accuracy of this frame because of quantities, I need it to be a snug fit as it is offered over the subframe, a little like a good quality shoe box lid when you present it to the main box.
The subframe is 780mm outer dimension, so what would you make the inner dimension on the outer or main decorative frame?
I was thinking of putting the glass into the outer frame, then a frame of mountboard before shooting some tabs in to hold the assemble together. But then I thought, if this assembly is offered down on to the subframe, would the tabs form a pressure point which could then break the glass?
On completion and if the customer likes what he gets, I may release some pictures.
Regards
Deepjoy
Thank you for your interest.
The day job has been quite busy and that is what pays the mortgage, so not a great deal of time has been spent on the project I am sorry to say. Thankfully the customer is in no rush.
I really liked Robo's frame on frame idea, but I have gone down the route of a plain, painted strip wood sub box, which I will overlay with an outer frame attached using fletcher twin points and screws. I have an idea to use Robo's system on something else, so it will not be wasted.
The sub frames are made and painted, shirts are stretched and over their formers, just need to start on the stitching / tab gun work. Choose and cut mountboard, assemble the main fascia / outer frame with glass, mount medals, printed plague and bang it all together. I am nervous about the cut and build of the main frame, I cannot make a mistake in the accuracy of this frame because of quantities, I need it to be a snug fit as it is offered over the subframe, a little like a good quality shoe box lid when you present it to the main box.
The subframe is 780mm outer dimension, so what would you make the inner dimension on the outer or main decorative frame?
I was thinking of putting the glass into the outer frame, then a frame of mountboard before shooting some tabs in to hold the assemble together. But then I thought, if this assembly is offered down on to the subframe, would the tabs form a pressure point which could then break the glass?
On completion and if the customer likes what he gets, I may release some pictures.
Regards
Deepjoy
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Re: HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
Sounds to me like things are going great guns. I'm sure the customer will be more than pleased with them and will see that you ploughed loads of thought into them.
Open offer of assistance from me if you need anything.
Kindest regards
Pinky
Open offer of assistance from me if you need anything.
Kindest regards
Pinky
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Re: HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
Don't go by figures, do it by eye.DEEPJOY wrote:subframe is 780mm outer dimension, so what would you make the inner dimension on the outer or main decorative frame?
But of course you do have to use figures because your machinery stops are set to them, so just err on the side of caution and aim for 3mm or so of play. Offer what you have cut up to what it has to fit and LOOK .... then trim so you can SEE what play you have, you want a snug fit - 1mm of play is fine, but make sure you have seen
that; don't depend on your machinery.
Be the ball, Danny! (Chevy Chase - Caddyshack)
Not really, the mount would spread the load, maybe fire the points closer together than you normally would to help further spread that load and if you still feel unsure, just make the space between those points flush with strips of something the same thickness.DEEPJOY wrote:I was thinking of putting the glass into the outer frame, then a frame of mountboard before shooting some tabs in to hold the assemble together. But then I thought, if this assembly is offered down on to the subframe, would the tabs form a pressure point which could then break the glass?
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What do you think?
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Nice job! Particularly like the ribbon work
Re: HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
I think it looks great, I'm sure you friend will be delighted!
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Lovely job
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This frame look very nice, but I'm puzzled by the whitish background not going all the way to the top of the frame?
I can't see in the photos, how this works and don't understand why it is that way. Can you please enlighten me???
I can't see in the photos, how this works and don't understand why it is that way. Can you please enlighten me???
Re: HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
Hi Ormond, Perhaps its a shadow box!
at least I think that's what you mean??
at least I think that's what you mean??
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Re: HELP AND IDEAS PLEASE
Thank you all, it is very important to hear your views especially if they are positive.
Stone Grey backing board is how it should be, what you see is a heavy shadow cast as a result of ceiling down lights illuminating the picture.
Thank you Robo, it looks like there are many people experiencing 'Deepjoy'!
Stone Grey backing board is how it should be, what you see is a heavy shadow cast as a result of ceiling down lights illuminating the picture.
Thank you Robo, it looks like there are many people experiencing 'Deepjoy'!