chalk drawing on paper
chalk drawing on paper
I was given a25 year old chalk drawing today,on a paper
I am going to use a cotton rag board etc.
how would you hinge the paper?
I was thinking of using
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/Arch-S ... ,7966.aspx
would they be suitable, as it means no adhesive touching the artwork at all
I am going to use a cotton rag board etc.
how would you hinge the paper?
I was thinking of using
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/Arch-S ... ,7966.aspx
would they be suitable, as it means no adhesive touching the artwork at all
Re: chalk drawing on paper
Unless the adhesive gives and the artwork slips on to any residue left.
To eliminate this possibility, and it is one, you can make your own edge support strips that, in a nutshell, on at least the bottom edge, are cut longer than the artwork, passed through the mounting board and secured on the back of it. You could also do that with these strips of course, as a backup.
What's wrong with hanging it like a curtain anyway, i.e. hingeing in the normal way from the top only?
To eliminate this possibility, and it is one, you can make your own edge support strips that, in a nutshell, on at least the bottom edge, are cut longer than the artwork, passed through the mounting board and secured on the back of it. You could also do that with these strips of course, as a backup.
What's wrong with hanging it like a curtain anyway, i.e. hingeing in the normal way from the top only?
Re: chalk drawing on paper
what you mean is use the mylar/melinex?.
I was nervous sticking to it, and thought the strips around the edges would give more support
is this just the wrong approach?
I was nervous sticking to it, and thought the strips around the edges would give more support
is this just the wrong approach?
Re: chalk drawing on paper
Just two paper T hinges at the top, hinged to the undermount.
Re: chalk drawing on paper
ok richard, cool
i have just never done this kind of thing and was sure what was best practice
i have just never done this kind of thing and was sure what was best practice
Re: chalk drawing on paper
Not necessarily, you can make edge support strips out of paper, be it 500 micron 'barrier' board or Japanese tissue, and then you can fix them with starch paste, which gives a mechanical bond. You'd have to use double-sided tape on melinex, which wouldn't be a problem, as long as you pass the ends of the strips through the mounting board as mentioned above.stcstc wrote:what you mean is use the mylar/melinex?.
Another case of better materials and methods costing less/paying for convenience.
If I were you (and assuming normal 'T' hinges are out for whatever reason) I'd probably opt for what's in your Lion link, but with the adaption of passing the ends of the top and bottom strips through the board and securing at the back.
I can probably provide some links if you like, but they'll be from across the pond, which is a bit sad really.
Re: chalk drawing on paper
i just dont have an idea about doing the paste thing,and not kitchen etc in office,which means i guess it would be a faff
would i be better with
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/LINECO ... ,7833.aspx
would i be better with
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/LINECO ... ,7833.aspx
Re: chalk drawing on paper
Stephen, I think the 'V' or mounting strips in your first link would be a better choice than the tape above.
But because these also rely on a self adhesive bond, Robo is saying that the at least the bottom strip (but also the top too really) should be longer than the art, the ends of which pass through some cuts in the undermount, these can the be secured with tape at the back too. So if the adhesive on the strips fails, they are being held in place by going through the undermount.
Its like a backup, of course these strips are probably too short, Lion do some longer ones, or make from melinex and fix with 3M 415 tape or maybe the fillet tape that Lion also sell.
But because these also rely on a self adhesive bond, Robo is saying that the at least the bottom strip (but also the top too really) should be longer than the art, the ends of which pass through some cuts in the undermount, these can the be secured with tape at the back too. So if the adhesive on the strips fails, they are being held in place by going through the undermount.
Its like a backup, of course these strips are probably too short, Lion do some longer ones, or make from melinex and fix with 3M 415 tape or maybe the fillet tape that Lion also sell.
Re: chalk drawing on paper
thanks richard and robo
i will have a go, with a test piece, before trying to do the real thing
i will have a go, with a test piece, before trying to do the real thing
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Re: chalk drawing on paper
Hi Steve,
If you wana pop int my workshop I'll show you a few different techniques.
Probably the easiest would be Archival Gummed Paper T-Hinges.
Ill run through some practical options in both techniques and materials with you.
If you wana pop int my workshop I'll show you a few different techniques.
Probably the easiest would be Archival Gummed Paper T-Hinges.
Ill run through some practical options in both techniques and materials with you.
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Re: chalk drawing on paper
Great offer from Absolute framing of Technical help.
Good on ya Boy
IMHO I do think that T-hinges will be ok if the artwork is of normal paper
but Robo's method of a pass through support can be very useful.
If you ever require longer see-Thru strips you can find them here..
http://www.framersequipment.co.uk/conservation.htm
SEE-THRU MOUNTING STRIPS
A framers favourite for hinge-less mounting of artworks. Lineco Mounting Strips are strong and safe and made from conservation quality Mylar polyester with a laminated slim strip of acid-free paper and on one side and set just in from the inner edge of the paper is a self adhesive backing strip to avoid glue migrating. Application is easy - lay your artwork in position on an acid-free backing, place the strips around the artwork, and adhere the strips to the backing. No adhesive ever touches the artwork. Strips can be cut to the required size of each job. Available in 4" strips and now economical 12" strips, each package contains 60 strips.
Code Description Price
MS4 See-Thru Mounting Strips 4" Qty 60 £10.40
MS12 See-Thru Mounting Strips 12" Qty 60 £20.90
Just in case you are interested I am running a Conservation Framing/mounting and washline mount course in July at Framers Equipment Northampton, link below.
Advanced Framing Course (mount decoration, conservation / museum) ... 9th Jul ............................ Book Online
http://www.framersequipment.co.uk/training_framing.htm
http://www.framersequipment.co.uk/FEL_A ... Course.pdf
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Good on ya Boy
IMHO I do think that T-hinges will be ok if the artwork is of normal paper
but Robo's method of a pass through support can be very useful.
If you ever require longer see-Thru strips you can find them here..
http://www.framersequipment.co.uk/conservation.htm
SEE-THRU MOUNTING STRIPS
A framers favourite for hinge-less mounting of artworks. Lineco Mounting Strips are strong and safe and made from conservation quality Mylar polyester with a laminated slim strip of acid-free paper and on one side and set just in from the inner edge of the paper is a self adhesive backing strip to avoid glue migrating. Application is easy - lay your artwork in position on an acid-free backing, place the strips around the artwork, and adhere the strips to the backing. No adhesive ever touches the artwork. Strips can be cut to the required size of each job. Available in 4" strips and now economical 12" strips, each package contains 60 strips.
Code Description Price
MS4 See-Thru Mounting Strips 4" Qty 60 £10.40
MS12 See-Thru Mounting Strips 12" Qty 60 £20.90
Just in case you are interested I am running a Conservation Framing/mounting and washline mount course in July at Framers Equipment Northampton, link below.
Advanced Framing Course (mount decoration, conservation / museum) ... 9th Jul ............................ Book Online
http://www.framersequipment.co.uk/training_framing.htm
http://www.framersequipment.co.uk/FEL_A ... Course.pdf
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Re: chalk drawing on paper
well thank you to stephen strahane from absolute framing
i went over to see him yesterday
nice to have meet him, top bloke
showed me how he would do the piece
so again thankyou
i went over to see him yesterday
nice to have meet him, top bloke
showed me how he would do the piece
so again thankyou
Re: chalk drawing on paper
A footnote to this topic and as it's the Outgassing section.......
I had a framed pastel in today for re-framing. It's in a thin black frame. No mount. The pastel in firmly pressed against the glass. And what's more it's been like that since 1938. there is a slight blurring on the written title and the signature, but the image itself (a dog's head) is perfect. It was done on dark brown paper though. I haven't disassembled the frame yet, but I suspect it is stuck down to the plywood back.
I had a framed pastel in today for re-framing. It's in a thin black frame. No mount. The pastel in firmly pressed against the glass. And what's more it's been like that since 1938. there is a slight blurring on the written title and the signature, but the image itself (a dog's head) is perfect. It was done on dark brown paper though. I haven't disassembled the frame yet, but I suspect it is stuck down to the plywood back.
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