Black & foil hand finish
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Black & foil hand finish
This is one of the methods I will be teaching on my forth coming hand finishing course. It just shows what is possible with foil finishes. It's quite an easy finish to do, but looks really stunning. It would look even better on a larger moulding profile.
It looks much better than the photo shows, but I still need a better camera, or need to discover how to photograph reflective materials better.
It looks much better than the photo shows, but I still need a better camera, or need to discover how to photograph reflective materials better.
Mark Lacey
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
The foil will take a glaze, or a wash and works well on mountboard too!
It's incredibly thin and can be applied onto a piece of mountboard before the aperture is cut, without the corner overlaps showing. It can even be applied to cut bevel edges on mounts!
This also is a great way of recycling your left over mountboard, when producing double mounts. The rear mount can be any unwanted colour of board and then easily changed by applying the desired foil finish.
Foils are available in just about any colour, or metallic finish and in matt, stain and gloss. At present, I've only bought golds and silvers, in distressed, cracked and florentine finishes. Some are quite delicate almost matt finishes, while others are more glossy. All are able to be distressed if required!
I was able to see some samples before I ordered, so I made sure that I got some that are really classy. Next time I will buy some plain and brushed golds, silvers, and bronzes, plus some plain coulours as well.
It's incredibly thin and can be applied onto a piece of mountboard before the aperture is cut, without the corner overlaps showing. It can even be applied to cut bevel edges on mounts!
This also is a great way of recycling your left over mountboard, when producing double mounts. The rear mount can be any unwanted colour of board and then easily changed by applying the desired foil finish.
Foils are available in just about any colour, or metallic finish and in matt, stain and gloss. At present, I've only bought golds and silvers, in distressed, cracked and florentine finishes. Some are quite delicate almost matt finishes, while others are more glossy. All are able to be distressed if required!
I was able to see some samples before I ordered, so I made sure that I got some that are really classy. Next time I will buy some plain and brushed golds, silvers, and bronzes, plus some plain coulours as well.
Mark Lacey
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
Sounds interesting Mark. Who supplies these foils and how do you get samples?
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
Hi Rolf,
I've sent you a PM.
I've sent you a PM.
Mark Lacey
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
mark why not post in the thread, i am sure there are a good few others would be interested in where these things come from etc
if they are very thin, how do you stick them down, i assume it needs to be very soome else you will see imperfections?
if they are very thin, how do you stick them down, i assume it needs to be very soome else you will see imperfections?
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
After the course, I will share the information on this technique with other forum members in the "Members only" section.stcstc wrote:mark why not post in the thread
Some will need to see how I do this as well as getting the info, because there is quite a bit of "hands on" method to this particular technique. I trust that some will get there without needing any more than the information I will give, but some won't.
I'm not sure how many of the techniques I am teaching can be expected to be learnt from just information posted on the forum. For example, authentic florentine finishes have to be taught as a hands on thing, because the exact recipe and viscosity of the paints is part of the technique.
Mark Lacey
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
Mark
why even post this now if your not prepare to talk about it till after you course. Its not in the spirit of this forum or any other, to put something up then say hey no we will talk about it later
i understand you want to keep the info to show to the poeple attending your course. BUT why post here until then.
why even post this now if your not prepare to talk about it till after you course. Its not in the spirit of this forum or any other, to put something up then say hey no we will talk about it later
i understand you want to keep the info to show to the poeple attending your course. BUT why post here until then.
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
Hi Stephen,
I accept your point and I will answer those questions now, but I would have liked to have been able to post the notes for the course on this particular finish. Unfortunately I cannot do so yet as I will be writing them this weekend and therefore don't have them available yet.
To answer the questions, the foil comes from Foilco and they are very helpful with samples. As you have said, the foil is very thin and yes, it takes skill and technique to avoid the imperfections which would otherwise be visible through the foil.
Some of my other techniques will be posted in the members only section, but there are not any selfish reasons for this. The information will still be there, if they are prepared to register and log on.
This is an attempt to get some of our unregistered lurkers to join and become involved in the forum. My thinking is that once they have registered and get the reply button on their screens, then they may be tempted to start asking questions and get involved. Do you think this is a good idea?
I accept your point and I will answer those questions now, but I would have liked to have been able to post the notes for the course on this particular finish. Unfortunately I cannot do so yet as I will be writing them this weekend and therefore don't have them available yet.
To answer the questions, the foil comes from Foilco and they are very helpful with samples. As you have said, the foil is very thin and yes, it takes skill and technique to avoid the imperfections which would otherwise be visible through the foil.
Some of my other techniques will be posted in the members only section, but there are not any selfish reasons for this. The information will still be there, if they are prepared to register and log on.
This is an attempt to get some of our unregistered lurkers to join and become involved in the forum. My thinking is that once they have registered and get the reply button on their screens, then they may be tempted to start asking questions and get involved. Do you think this is a good idea?
Mark Lacey
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
cool mark, is the foild adhesive backed??
i like your thinking of the members only. only flaw is, as non members cant see whats in the members only section how will they know its there? and therefore ask questions?
i like your thinking of the members only. only flaw is, as non members cant see whats in the members only section how will they know its there? and therefore ask questions?
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
Yes. The more involved and contributing with the forum the better.
BTW, hope your workshop goes well, a great idea![Yes :yes:](./images/smilies/emoticon-0148-yes.gif)
BTW, hope your workshop goes well, a great idea
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
Thanks David.
Mark Lacey
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Re: Black & foil hand finish
Yes, but the adhesive is an extremely thin layer and either needs enough pressure to bring all the adhesive into full contact with the application surface material, or a prepared compatible coating on the application surface to assist adhesion.stcstc wrote:cool mark, is the foild adhesive backed??
Mark Lacey
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