How much??

[Roboframer]

Put this here because it's not about the framing* - just an interesting menu from Jack Dempsey's New York restaurant in 1965. Customer paid a fair bit for it at an auction and I wish it was mine - evil thoughts of using our digital colour photocopier entered my head.

Also used links instead of attaching photos so's you can zoom in to read the menu and prices - you'll have to tilt your head for one of the photos though.

http://i.imgur.com/czW99.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gEhJ8.jpg

*But anyway - double-sided, UV glass on front, 3mm cast acrylic on rear, menu is melinex encapsulated because there was not enough spare paper in the image for hinges to not show and also because the thing was so flimsy that without the support of encapsulation it would have bowed, one way or the other, and touched the glazing.

[Keith Hewitt]

Nice job Robo

Like the 1965 prices

Only this month I paid ( Paris CDG) more for 1 coffee than I earnt in a whole week in 1965.

Evil wound - this inflation.

[prospero]

I love repeats of TV programmes from the 60s/70s where they mention prices.

Only the other week, Terry of Terry & June was complaining bitterly because he had taken June to a posh restaurant and the bill came to nearly six quid.

There again, a video recorder in 1970 cost more than a new Range Rover.

[prospero]

Penelope Keith has just bought a bottle of sherry for £1.72.

[GeoSpectrum]

How much did framing cost back then? Dont ask me I'm way to young

[prospero]

When I started, any moulding above 30p at foot was up-market.

[misterdiy]

Don't know about framing in '65 but the average wage then was £15 a week, a house (semi) in the sticks cost £3000, petrol was 25p per GALLON and a pint was about 8p

hey ho how times have changed

[prospero]

And George Formby was still on ration.

[Not your average framer]

When I were a kid, I can remember my dad paying 1s 3d per gallon for petrol. There were no self service pumps in those days. No 4 star, or unleaded, just regular or premium. The national brands in those days included, Regent, Blue Star, and Cleveland, all now just a memory.

Our car did not start on the key, but had a spring loaded pull switch on the dashboard and there was no steering lock, or seat belts. If you could get into the car, you could drive it away.

It was a Ford Y type shooting brake and my family were the only car owners on our block at that time. Traffic jams were almost unheard of. This would have been about 1958 or 1959!

Cars did not need to be MOT'ed in those days, but there was a "10 year test".

[prospero]

You don't get Green Shield stamps any more.

Or stick on bullet holes for your windscreen.

Although noddy dogs are still to be seen.

[retropic]

The ten year test for all vehicles over 10 years old was introduced in September 1960 by Earnest Marples, the then Transport Minister. It later became known as the MoT (the name of the test being derived from Ministry of Transport. I guess if it were introduced today it'd be known as a DfT). By 1967 the requirement for the test was shortened to three years.

In 1960 there were around 9 million vehicles, with 7,000 deaths annually on British roads. RoSPA report that less than 2,000 deaths occur on British roads, but we have 35 million cars.

The fitting of seatbelts in new cars became compulsory from 1967, but it wasn't until 31 January 1983 that it became compulsory for front seat passengers to wear them. I passed my driving test (the compulsory driving test was introduced in June 1935) in late 1982 and I remember going out in my VW Beetle on the day the wearing of seatbelts became law and forgetting to put the belt on. Now it feels strange to even turn the ignition key before the belt has been secured.

Up until recently I drove a Ford Capri with a nodding Scooby Doo on the back shelf. The head used to fall off every time I opened the tailgate.

I don't remember stick on bullet holes though.

[misterdiy]

How about the fluffy dice then? And what about the Maserati air horns. The twin tone were banned (for pretty obvious reasons) and then the colonel bogie ones were banned, which was followed much later by the triple tones which I had. Still have them in the shed somewhere.

They always seem to take the fun out of motoring don't they?

[prospero]

Who had a CB radio then?


Go on. Fess up.

[BigBazza]

My old Grandfather was born on June 13th 1918 amd was one of the last to 'buy' his driving licence before compulsory driving tests came in - he used to wax lyrical about it costing him a small fortune (a couple of shillings!!) for his licence

Having served in the Army during the war, he then joined the Fire Brigade when he de-mobbed, and spent almost 30 years driving all sorts of HGV tpye fire tenders, right up to articulated 'Simon Snorkel' turntable ladders in late 60's / early 70's - all without ever sitting any formal driving test whatsoever!

He sadly passed away in 2010 just before his 92nd Birthday having driven regularly (and very safely I must add!) right up until a few months before his death, having never sat a driving test

[prospero]

Who remembers hand signals?

I have an ancient copy of the Highway Code somewhere and it shows you how to signal with your whip while driving a horse and cart.

[misterdiy]

Hand signals are still very popular today, mostly with the use of hand and wrist movement. There is the one where you use the thumb and forefinger to form a loop and then do a limp wrist movement - normally at someone in a car that has just overtaken/cut you up. The second is of course our victory signal which oddly seems to have dropped to third place after the previously mentioned. Then there is he one favoured by our ladies which is pointing to the roof of the car with just one (middle) finger.

Try as I may, they don't appar in the Highway Code. Never anything useful in that mag.

[Roboframer]

My favourite is to remove my glasses and hang them out of the window as if to offer them to the a-holes that drive at me instead of giving way - have to get them back on quick though or I'd end up in someone's garden.

My old Grandfather was born on June 13th 1918

That made me feel old - my father was born Jan 1 1913!