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Is this OK?

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Today we un-cello-wrapped a pair of ltd edns brought in earlier in the week.

They are from a well known publisher who's initials are ..... W A S H I N G T O N ....... G R E E N!!



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Nice deep wrapped bevel - made out of .....................


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Packaging grade polystyrene - not even foamboard (extruded polysytrene?)

Lots of publishers do deep, wrapped bevels, but normaly with built up mountboard or foamcore.

I don't know if this is 'wrong' - surely the stuff is inert - just seems cheap and nasty to me - not something I'd use.

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That's a new one on me! :? New FATG standard, mebbe?
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John,
The odour it gives off could be an indicator of gases it's giving off. All the polystyrene that I have come across, stinks!

I wouldn't be using it myself.
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osgood wrote:John,
The odour it gives off could be an indicator of gases it's giving off. All the polystyrene that I have come across, stinks!
I think Ormond is correct, John. On seeing it, I immediately had a wee niggle in the back of my mind that it gives off some sort of vapour. I don't know whether things have changed since they started making CFC-free stuff.... :?
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its the type of cost-cutting you see from time to time. I suspect its to reduce weight as well as materials costs. what do you reckon?

But I suppose, like MDF and styrene (and no-more-nails) polystyrene has its uses :shock: ... pass the masking tape ;)

perhaps its more evidence of a disposable society, where the art is merely temporary anyway. For example , I remember eating "limited edition" marmite crisps (and very good they were too) and not only did they have a sell-by date, I wouldn't have dreamed of wanting to preserve them for all eternity.

Maybe limited edition no longer equals "worth keeping"? Shame the decision was made by the publisher, rather than the customer, though.

Just a sideways look at it.
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Kev. Turn up the oxygen mix - Bubble heads I ask you.... sideways thinking... :lol:

Its a case of 'Buyer Beware'. It looks good from the front. Its only when you open up and examine that you really see some horrors

Thanks for sharing Robo
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Well I never thought Washington Green would sink that low, although I've heard various negative comments on their other cost cutting antics. If it had to be anyone, we all know they were the most likely. I suppose the further you go down that road the easier it becomes to think the unthinkable and not realise what your customers will think about it.

When you consider the massive buying power of Washington green and the massive discount they can already get, the tiny savings they can get out of this, show that a quick buck is more important than the value of their reputation or brand name.
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Matbe it's some 'special' stuff, but I don't think so - it's squishy - just like normal packaging stuff.

As I said, most publishers use stuff you or I would use - stuff you can get from framing suppliers - I don't know any that sell that polystyrene - unless for packaging maybe ?

Again - all done under the FATG logo, do they care? Bovvered? Bovvered?
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Roboframer wrote:Matbe it's some 'special' stuff..."
Perhaps the framer came from Royston Vasey....
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Roboframer wrote:all done under the FATG logo, do they care?
Oh! So that's alright then! They'll probably get the Queen's Award for Industry next.
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Merlin Framers wrote:Kev. Turn up the oxygen mix - Bubble heads I ask you.... sideways thinking... :lol:

Its a case of 'Buyer Beware'. It looks good from the front. Its only when you open up and examine that you really see some horrors

Thanks for sharing Robo
should that have been 'lateral?' :oops:

Goes to show, if you spend enough on advertising in ABT you can make your own "standards" as far as fine art are concerned :twisted:
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Does foamcore have a polystyrene centre? or some other sort of "foam"?
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Post by Not your average framer »

Roboframer wrote:Matbe it's some 'special' stuff..."
Maybe it's just cheap!

I Wonder what they use to stick the paper to the bevel.
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kev@frames wrote:Does foamcore have a polystyrene centre? or some other sort of "foam"?
Yes, but it's extruded - the packaging stuff is expanded - I think.

Plus foamcore is, as the word suggests a board with a polystyrene core, sandwiched between two sheets of other stuff.

Even if it wasn't, it wouldn't flake off and crumble like the packaging stuff does.

Out of sight, out of mind.

To answer NYAF's question - how do they stick it to the bevel. They don't - it is wrapped and taped on the back as shown and taped in the same way on the front and then covered by the top mount.
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