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Mr Bojangles · Post by **Mr Bojangles** » Wed 05 Mar, 2008 2:59 pm

NYAF I'm too looking for training. How would you recommend one to one training with Mike Royall over a group training course.
As i'm a complete novice I want to get the best training possible as to start of on the correct path.
One to one courses are a lot more expensive than group courses but surely would be money well spent to have some intense training

WelshFramer · Post by **WelshFramer** » Wed 05 Mar, 2008 3:31 pm

I'd say it depends a lot on the tutor and the size and make-up of the group.

I've attended a few small group training courses and they had the benefit that we also learned from each other - particularly each other's mistakes.

On the other hand, get the wrong tutor and a large group - or one when one or two members dominate - and it can be a complete waste of time.

Not your average framer · Wed 05 Mar, 2008 9:58 pm

I've only ever had one to one training and until now had not heard of anyone doing otherwise. I can't see much point in anything other than one to one training, it needs to be hands-on training where you do things under the instruction and watch eye of the trainer.

I was very fortunate as all my training was paid for by a training provider appointed through the job centre in what was unusual circumstances. I don't think such training is normally funded by them at all. I had a six month training placement at Triton Galleries in Torquay and will always be grateful to the staff there, who made sure that I learnt just about everything I could ever need to know.

The training provider paid for two days with Mike royall and later when I started my own business, the job cetre told me that if I applied for it within two years of signing-off they would fund some more training. So I used that funding to spend one whole week with Pete Bingham.

Don't under estimate training, it makes a considerable difference to a lot more than many might expect. When you go for training, make a point of asking lots of questions, especially about pricing your work and other business issues, etc.

kev@frames · Post by **kev@frames** » Wed 05 Mar, 2008 10:13 pm

Hi Blaise-

Dont go off to a forum for beginners! You are one of us now, its like Royston Vasey, You'll Never Leave.

No question is too daft.

You'll find everything you need to know right here on the FramersForum or on the Grumble

we ALL seem to learn something new on a weekly basis here, and many of us have been in framing longer than any other job we have had. At the grand old age of 50, I have spent exactly half of my adult life working in framing come this friday

(the other half was on oil rigs lol) and I still use this forum on a daily basis for reference, so do my staff.

we are also building the Oracle, piece by piece, and there will be a lot of "how-to" articles there which will always be up to date, because the oracle is a wiki and edited by anyone.

I suspect the only reason many of us have not already put how-to pieces in there is because we fear getting it "wrong", which is daft because all the members can edit it.

Have a look at the Oracle while the contents are still a manageable size

Not your average framer · Wed 05 Mar, 2008 11:01 pm

blaisehall wrote:Perhaps I should go and look for another forum for beginners.

Hi Blaise,

This forum is for beginners and everyone else too! Stick around, you'll learn plenty. Ask as many question as you need to and don't worry that you might be asking something daft. Lots of the regulars on here were beginners and some quite recently, but we all learn fast here!

Some of the regular contributors, were beginners who were worrying about asking daft questions and now they're amougst the real pros. Everyone here wants to be the best, we set high standards and we all gain from the combined experience of the whole forum.

I don't think you will find any where better. I hope you'll stay and enjoy the fun too!

blaisehall · Post by **blaisehall** » Thu 06 Mar, 2008 10:59 pm

kev@frames wrote: You'll find everything you need to know right here on the FramersForum or on the Grumble :) we ALL seem to learn something new on a weekly basis here...

I've learned loads already. It's great forum and thanks for being so open with your advice.
Blaise

blaisehall · Post by **blaisehall** » Thu 06 Mar, 2008 11:04 pm

Not your average framer wrote: This forum is for beginners and everyone else too! Stick around, you'll learn plenty...I hope you'll stay and enjoy the fun too!

Thanks, I've had so much help already. I'm new to framing and forums so it's quite a steep learning curve. I'm soaking up all the info about framing - I think this site is a great reference tool. Better than any book on framing.