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Thanks Justin.

I do try make use of the search function and have found many ancient threads that have helped me on the journey.

I find it's a little tricky if the search terms are quite vague, for example as you suggest the thread on [a] 'package into a frame with insufficient depth' I was unsure of the terms to search to find such a thread.

But I will continue to dig through the archives of the FF.

Thanks.

Here’s the latest thread on insufficient rebate depth.

viewtopic.php?t=22795

F91W wrote: Mon 10 Feb, 2025 9:28 pm I have a 800x600 canvas around 20mm depth - customer would like some frame stacking - so basically a choice of two mouldings together and without glass to show the details in the piece. So I have framed canvas but only in tray frames, never with regular moulding. Is it as simple as just joining the moulding and sitting the canvas within the rebate of the inner frame? This seems a bit off to me!?
If that is workable how does the frame look from the back?
Also what else do I need to factor in for stacked frames? For a first-timer?

Glass does not prevent details being shown, especially water white/optically coated glass.
Traditionally - and in many cases you can read in to that “for old schoolers who refuse to move on” - there is indeed no need for glass, or any backing, for oils on canvas. They are protected with varnish and you need to access the back to re-tension them.

With glass there is no need to varnish, or to replace dirty varnish, and which would anyone prefer to clean anyway, especially if you’d have to pay someone?!

Backing reduces or eliminates the risk of damage and dust from the rear. It’s easily removed if re- tensioning is required, if indeed there is any space left in the rebate to do that!

If you offer these(and many other) "new" way of thinking options it will certainly make you different, and doesn't it make sense for a new business to embrace new ideas and adopt the latest methods!

Yes, the lip of the frame holds the canvas in, just like the edge of a window mount does art on paper. Plus canvasses are usually stapled or tacked on the side, not the back. and you don’t want to see them.