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Re: Blind slips

Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 10:53 am
by prospero
Like a lot of things people use different names and it doesn't matter a lot as long as you know what they are talking about. :)

But my own personal nomenclature is that a Slip is a flat section. can be beveled, coved, or rounded or just square along the edge. Original purpose was to go behind glass to provide separation from a mounted print or whatever. If it is wider than the rebate - sticking out in other words - it also gives a pleasing visual effect. A lot of old wood-finish frames have a gilded slip. You can also use it on top of the glass purely for the aesthetic aspect. All the wood mouldings you see with gilt sight-edges are all-in-one adaptations of frame styles that would have had a separate slip in the olde days...

Fillets are like slips but have a raised section on the upper edge. These are used mostly nowadays in mounts. Adds a nice visual feature while also increasing the depth of the mount. The raised edge allows you to get perfect alignment. You couldn't use one as a traditional slip, but these are actually better for adding sight edges, especially if you only want 3mm or so reveal. Also handy for extending the width of a too-narrow rebate.

Liners have a rebate. They can be any moulding that fits inside another and provides a sort of visual no-mans-land between art an frame. They can go under glass and are very useful for this purpose. They can be very narrow or very wide, though technically if the liner is wider than the frame it is a Panel. But that splitting hairs a bit.

One of my first customers used to call slips 'stretchers'. :roll:

Attaching blind slips.
If they are made of mountboard I usually stick them to the glass with doublestick tape. If they were wood, you could just tack them to the frame with a little dab of PVA. You would mitre the corners anyway so in theory they should stay put without further fixing, but you never know...
No need to fix them too firmly. You might want to remove them later. :D

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 1:26 pm
by strokebloke
Splendid.
The goal posts are back in identifiable form and position. (for the moment, at least) :lol:
Thank you very much Peter.

you're right ~ liners. (with a rebate) :clap:

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2012 9:29 pm
by pramsay13
Hi strokebloke, I'm a bit like you with regards upselling and I usually apologise when I offer extra.
For the glass though I have some of the sample frames from Tru-Vue which have different options so I just show the customer and let them choose. Someone yesterday was getting the frame for less than they thought, so added UV glass to protect the artwork after seeing the different options.
You can get them here
http://www.tru-vue.com/Framers/Tools

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2012 10:13 pm
by strokebloke
Thank you. Your advice is much appreciated

I've submitted an order.
I've been advised that it will be received in 7-10 days. :)

Certainly some sort of demo would make the 'selling element' much less of a 'personal opinion/trying to make money' exercise.

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Wed 08 Aug, 2012 4:01 pm
by strokebloke
pramsay13 wrote:the sample frames from Tru-Vue ........ You can get them here
http://www.tru-vue.com/Framers/Tools
My samples arrived this afternoon.
Two enormous packages ~ one containing a framed demo unit with Cons Clear / Museum & Cons AR in it. the other with loads of stickers, gloves, acrylic samples and an anti-static demo.
I shall have to re-arrange everything to accommodate it all. :lol: :lol:

So ~ thank you pramsay13 for the link. Much appreciated.

Jack

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Wed 08 Aug, 2012 7:27 pm
by IFGL
just to give you a little more confidence in selling AR glass, I have customers who come to me by recommendation because of the AR glass,

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2012 5:08 pm
by strokebloke
My problem is not price
My problem is the rubbish that floats around in the nebulous regions between my ears :lol:
What i think of myself if I carry out a certain action
What other people will think of me if i carry out a certain action.

Often what the action is, is entirely irrelevant.
It's down to perception: Firstly mine; and then what I think others perceive me to be.
Murky waters, indeed. :giggle: :giggle: :Slap:

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Sat 11 Aug, 2012 8:41 am
by Steve N
Now you have totally lost me Jack :?

Re: Blind slips

Posted: Sat 11 Aug, 2012 3:27 pm
by strokebloke
Don't worry Steve. I have that effect on people. :lol: :oops: