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mitre saw

Posted: Tue 03 Sep, 2013 8:47 am
by Art_Framed
Hi everyone, we have just purchase an Inmes IM30 mitre saw for our framing workshop. We currently are using the tried and true Morso. Has anyone else purchased the Inmes saw and if so what are your thoughts. Cheers, Art Framed.

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Tue 03 Sep, 2013 9:33 am
by astraios
We are using Inmes IM30 ... our experience:
+ no back chipping like on Morso
+ despite one side stroke at the time faster than morso despite single drop for cutting (but this can be personal experience)
+ solid build
+ pneumatic claps
- couldn't manage to calibrate it 100% (one side is perfect; the other have 1 mm gap ... I compensate for this with poker cards but it is annoying)
- extending arms move over time so you need to adjust them often to get a good reading
- didn't succeed to perfectly align extending arms with the base unit
- technical support in our country - NONE (this is important because saw is made in Brasil so it could be a problem to get a spare parts)

Overall ... would I buy it again - NO :xcomputer: . It can be a good backup saw but we are planning to replace it with Cassese. If you calculate production time you loose because of this small but important thing Caseese is almost free compared to Inmes :wink: For those who are looking for single stroke I suggest Omga ... but like I said all of this is based on my personal experience .

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Tue 03 Sep, 2013 7:55 pm
by misterdiy
We do use one and have now got it sorted thanks to Jack at Lion. Ours is now about 3 years old and they have improved the machine with a new motor since then. We have had the new motor because we could not get a decent cut, eventually put down to blade wobble. The results now are exceptionally good for a single cut mitre saw.

It's not our main machine, we only use it on difficult profiles and oak/ash, of which we do cut a lot. The morso is still the main work horse.

Would I buy again? Difficult to answer as it really depend on it's work load. It is not a production machine: For that you need a two bladed saw and I would buy a secondhand cassese 939 or 969.

For what we use it for it is very good and also good value for money. I have not tried it on plastic mouldings but may have to soon

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Wed 04 Sep, 2013 8:16 am
by Graysalchemy
Astraios Said

'- couldn't manage to calibrate it 100% (one side is perfect; the other have 1 mm gap ... I compensate for this with poker cards but it is annoying)'

That is a serious flaw, and with no technical support in the UK :head: :head:. Have you asked for help from the supplier?

If I had bought that it would be straight back to the supplier.

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Wed 04 Sep, 2013 10:33 am
by Keith Hewitt
I notice the original poster is from Tasmania and making their first post....
So welcome to the Forum Art_Framed :D

The post from Astraios is from Slovenia saying he has no tech support. I find this strange as VIDAL are the INMES distributor in Slovenia and they are a switched on company. http://www.vidal.si/index.php?&lang=en With a website in both English and Slovenian.
Have you asked VIDAL for help?

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Wed 04 Sep, 2013 10:41 am
by astraios
Graysalchemy wrote:That is a serious flaw ... If I had bought that it would be straight back to the supplier.
It's a long story ... if i knew then what i know now. We bought it when opened three years ago and than I didn't have a technical "knowledge" ... so rookie mistake :head: . First I thought problem was underpiner (so we replaced it / bad choice again but that is another story). Calibration did't help either so we purchase a sander ... and only than we noticed that one side is perfect and other is off. But until than time has passed so we couldn't ask for replacement. So everyone who want's to know what NOT to buy ... just ask :D
Graysalchemy wrote:And with no technical support in the UK.
No ... I am from Slovenia (sometimes feels like third world country :wink: ) ... so here we don't have any support. Last time I ordered spare parts from UK (Lion) so I guess that in UK there should be adequate support for this machines.

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Wed 04 Sep, 2013 11:22 am
by Graysalchemy
Sorry Astraios I didn't see that you were from Slovenia, that was what surprised me as support in general on machinery in this country is very good. :oops: :oops:

Astraios Said

'First I thought problem was underpiner (so we replaced it / bad choice again but that is another story)'

Not a bad assumption to make especially when you are spending quite a bit of money on a new machine though as you have subsequently found out it is the otherway round, a decent under pinner usually shows up the inaccuracies of the cut.

:D :D

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Wed 04 Sep, 2013 12:10 pm
by astraios
Keith Hewitt wrote:Have you asked VIDAL for help?
We discuss it and were advised that it just need calibration ... but like I mentioned later on we concluded that this kind of mistake couldn't be solved by calibration.

In Slovenia there is specific situation regarding framing equipment. Distribution of most of major brand is covered but 'technical support' and spare parts is a another story. I understand that major problem is small market so distributors doesn't employ internal technicians and it is hard to stock spare parts but those are thing which distributor should consider when they decide agree to distribution. I can't take a phone and speak with technician who will then come on site and assist when necessary. So technical support is improvisation depending mostly from a good will and how busy is distributor.

For example we are planning to buy Cassesse 960/969 ... and I need to purchase it trough local distributor who is also a gallery/retail frame shop (problem no. 1). Number of technicians = 0 (problem no. 2). Last time when we needed technical support from that distributor we received answer and I quote "they are busy because of framing project they had ... If we want we can bring the machine to their site" (if that happen with 969 ... I would gladly put 800 kg machine in my car so they can check it)(problem no. 3). Spare part stock = min to none (problem no. 4) ...

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Wed 11 Sep, 2013 9:42 am
by Art_Framed
Thanks Keith for the kind welcome to the forum. Thanks to every one that has posted a reply.

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Thu 12 Sep, 2013 8:26 am
by allyblue1
I have a Inmes IM30 and am extremely happy with it. We are very lucky with the technical support we get in the UK from Lion. I purchased my one to replace the Morso as I could no longer use it due to disability. With the Electro-Hydraulic morso starting price being about 8k, the Inmes iM30 was the best or only option for me financially at the time I purchased it. As I say I have had it for about 18 months now and have had no issues with it. I also have the Inmes IM-4P Underpinner and find this to be excellent.

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Sun 22 Sep, 2013 10:17 am
by Art_Framed
Well the new saw has arrived and when it was put together the results were more than acceptable. With a keen eye it was evident that there was a very slight under cut on the inside of one of the mitres. This indicated that one side was out slightly. It was found that the lefdt side was the problem but this was easilt adjusted and the cut i now perfect. We are more that happy with this product. The build quality is great. It is a great addition to out framing shop. Happy days. Cheers, Art Framed.

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Tue 24 Sep, 2013 11:40 am
by Kwik Picture Framing
The Inmes saw is a cracking machine. It cuts straight through thick 3 inch wide wooden ramin and oak wooden mouldings; far easier than the Morso. The Inmes will do a 3 inch wide cut in one go, whereas with a Morso it takes 6 to 7 cuts.

The downside is that with the Inmes you really need an extractor to suck in all the dust while cutting or you will fill the room with dust. Conversely, of course the Morso is clean, easy to maintain and takes up less room than the Inmes saw.

I guess as with many things in the framing industry it comes down to space and need. If you have the space and need a bigger saw then go for it :D

Re: mitre saw

Posted: Fri 27 Sep, 2013 9:48 am
by Art_Framed
Well our IM30 takes up around the same space as the Morso did and with the built in dust collection we have found no dust floating in the shop at all. Just happy days for us. Cheers, Art Framed and stalf.