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Off white?
Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2014 5:16 pm
by Roboframer
Here's how the publisher of this limited edition print sells it mounted and framed

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Here's my take

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Re: Off white?
Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2014 5:47 pm
by Comfyjumper
Much better.....

Re: Off white?
Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2014 6:59 pm
by seesaw101
Re: Off white?
Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2014 8:20 pm
by pramsay13
Wow, that's quite a difference. I can understand why publishers can't choose individual mounts for each print, but that is the benefit of a picture framer that can do bespoke framing. It's amazing the colour difference between the 2 images lower images, just shows that you kinda need to see something in person to know exactly what colour it is.
What have you done with the lines on the mount?
Re: Off white?
Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2014 8:37 pm
by AllFramed
Very nice job. What a difference a mount makes.

Re: Off white?
Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2014 8:48 pm
by Roboframer
The one showing the complete frame is closest to the mount colour, which is a metallic artcare board 'blue tanzanite'.
The deep bevel is made from strips of artcare foam board wrapped with surface paper peeled off mount board offcuts and stippled with paint flicked off a tooth brush, prior. Just thought I'd do the reverse of the sky to see what that might look like and decided I liked it.
Set of 7 or 8 CMC-embossed lines 1 mm apart then another one 5mm out.
Moulding is from L Juhl's 'Fenice' range.
http://www.arqadia.co.uk/productdetails ... mno=464500
Re: Off white?
Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2014 9:00 pm
by Not your average framer
Superbly presentated. You would think that art publishers might at least try and do something better.
Re: Off white?
Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2014 8:14 pm
by Geoff
Personally I prefer something along the lines of the original, perhaps using a French or Peploe mount. I think the frame is too much for the image and the colour of the mount just doesn't harmonise with the image, it competes with it. Just my personal taste.
Re: Off white?
Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2014 9:03 pm
by Roboframer
That sort of stuff's fine for your thatched cottage with the chickens being fed out front .... and a lot more no doubt, including this, for some. But I saw it as a fun picture and had some of my own with it.
It sold, for £80 more than the RRP of the publisher's version, 4 days after I posted it here.
What's your definition of a French mount ... and what is a peploe mount? (spellcheck's never 'eard of one)
Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 1:57 am
by IFGL
I must admit I agree with Geoff, the original is lacking some mount detail but is in the right colour range the frame is not right with it making it look bland.
I do not like the black mount at all it competes for dominance and wins imho.
I used to frame things in this way, picking out a colour in the image and using that as the main mount colour, I questioned many times why framers always seemed to use light colours for the top colour, one day about 13 years ago after a good long chat with a art lecturer at Hallam University a switch tripped in my head and I suddenly saw everything I was doing in a completely different way, these dark heavy colours at first do look good but if you really look at it what they do is over power and deaden.
Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 12:21 pm
by Geoff
I've never made or used a French/Peploe mounts for either a thatched cottage or chickens being fed image, definitely NOT my sort of thing. Framing is all about harmonising the artwork,mount if required and frame. I often use French mounts (sometimes toned) in particular for a wide variety of contemporary art only, Robert Heindel silkscreens as an example. The publisher of the image is quite clearly looking for a simple mount/frame combination which perhaps is generic, but no doubt will have a wide appeal. The image can breath in this simple presentation whereas I feel the dark mount in particular suffocates such a simple image. Interesting to see regardless.
Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 12:35 pm
by Roboframer
Pity the sky's so dark eh, suffocating all those bright stars
Aaaaaanyway - again - what's your definition of a French mount and what's a peploe mount??
(Your website's down BTW)
Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 12:56 pm
by Roboframer
IFGL wrote:I do not like the black mount at all it competes for dominance and wins imho.
Go to specsavers, get tested for colour blindness then have another go

Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 2:55 pm
by Geoff
Just not worth further comment.
Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 3:17 pm
by Roboframer
Why make one then?
I'm getting a complex, I seem to be unable to get a simple answer to a simple question these days - can anyone else tell me what they would define as a french mount or a peploe mount

Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 3:21 pm
by Roboframer
I do have off white moments - these prints are from the same order.

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Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 3:28 pm
by Trillian
A peploe mount:
A French mount:
A French bound mount:

Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 3:39 pm
by Roboframer
Ah - thank you, so open 'V' groove, washline and deep wrapped bevel.

Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 4:37 pm
by IFGL
now you have a much fairer view of the 2, I used the picture from your one and it is unaltered.
Re: Off white?
Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2014 4:48 pm
by Geoff
two mounts styles. The French mount has a slight umber wash