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Good day everybody!

Please, does anyone could tell (roughly) what is an hourly rate for Fine Art Trade Guild commended advanced picture framer (GCF Adv) with more than 12 years experience?

Your answers and suggestions are much appreciated.

Thank you kindly in advance and have a nice day.

Kind regards,
Cyrus

Do you mean how much should s/he be paid, or charge per hour?

I'm sorry for being not so clear.

I meant framer as an employee - how much should s/he be paid per hour?

According to this https://nationalcareersservice.direct.g ... ramer.aspx maybe £17,000 plus, per year, not per hour!


But you can see stuff on the job spec there that isn't included in the GCF tests so I'd say it depends on how the person and the skills s/he comes complete with, fits in to the business.

I pay my ("unqualified") framer far more than that.

So, say it was 40 hrs per week and £20,000 per year, that would be 20000/52/40 = £9.62 per hour. A 37 hour week would be £10,40 per hour to achieve the same annual salary.

Thank you very much for your answer, Roboframer.

I pay both of my part time staff a bit more than the "living wage". I think that if you want your staff to respect you and remain loyal to you, then it helps to pay them decent money and by doing so show some respect to them.

Frankly, I think that to offer a job that satisfies the national minimum wage is a bit insulting and sends a pretty bad message to staff considering applying for your job.

http://www.livingwage.org.uk/news/new-2 ... -announced

As a result of paying the living wage, I don't have any problems with losing staff and I have a great friendship with both of them!

You are absolutely right!

The "living wage" probably is a point from which rates start. Or at least should be.

Thank you, Not your average framer.

I pay my cleaner £10 per hour (this is (probably at the low end of the) going rate in London). A cleaner is largely unskilled; a framer is a skilled and trained operator, and in my opinion should earn more. Of course, you're not in London.

Thank you, Jamesnkr!

So I assume that something between £ 14 - 18 / hour would be discussable rate (we talking about London area).

This position was offering £14 - £15 per hour in London http://theframersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12774

Going have to give myself a rise

I would agree that for a skilled person the rate should be more, but that at least some of the rate should be subject to results. Naturally it would only be fair that an employee whose work has a significant impact on the success and performance of a business should be properly renumerated for such a valuable input into the success of the business.

My experience is that employees who know that they are valued and respected will enjoy working for you and will be committed to you and to your business. Failure to pay a good employee a rate which expresses the fact that you value that employee can be one of the worst mistakes that you can make. It is always easier to lose an outstanding employee, than to find a replacement of the same outstanding calibre.

I count myself as being blessed to have good and committed staff and I make a point of thanking them both every week for their efforts, because I think that it matters. Those who know me well enough to know about the limitations caused by my health issues will understand when I say that these staff member are truly vital to my business and to me as well and I want my staff to know that and how much I value them.

Thank you, Not your average framer for your honest and truthful answer.

I absolutely agree with you!

Having written this last week, I discover from The Powers That Be that my cleaner is paid £12 per hour...

A 20% raise in a week?
Not bad.

Jes'

Wish I worked for you guys!