The Framers Forum

so seeing as i'm on a role at the moment!, have a gunnar CMC at the moment, which i'm happy with, but tight on space, would love to get it upstairs (very tight) so it is with the rest of the equipment in the workshop, but it's looking like a no go. Been thinking about a wizard or a valiani, as they can be wall mounted, but worried about waste slipping behind board when cutting.
any thoughts or suggestions would be deeply appreciated!
cheers
Simon

The Gunnar can be wall mounted.... I was tight for space with my studio and as I wanted to have both my large format printer and Gunnar F1 XL in the front shop... I looked at wall mounting.. I was in the fortunate position of redesigning the shop so I was able to run 4 inch batons across the wall in 3 different positions before lining the wall with 20mm veneered MDF, so I could mount the Gunnar at the desired height. Don't get me wrong.... it was not easy... it took 4 of us to lift it into position while a fifth smaller person went behind to attach it to the wall with 6" coach bolts. I have found it to work really well and Sarah & Steve were worried about the weight but delighted that it worked out for me.... 9 months and no movement at all so I am pleased too

Good to know!

My Gunnar has been wall mounted since i bought it over a year ago and no problems.

Our first CMC was a Fletcher F6100 (1999-2008) which was designed more vertical (about 60 degrees) with the tight quarters in mind that exist in most frame shops and it worked fine. Our current Valiani Future sits more like a tilted draftsman's table at about 20 degrees which is honestly more conducive to mat cutting. And yes...it has a slightly larger footprint - perhaps 20 percent more.

Although several of the current range of CMC's can be mounted and will function at more vertical angles, if you ask one of the expert users who works for any of these firms, if they had the option of going with less incline, you would find that the majority would take this option - the machines will simply function better. If you note the highest performing CMC's from Valiani and Gunnar are dead flat table desgins!

Although I realize that many of us function within tight quarters in our workshops, I would always recommend to the framer installing any CMC to somehow find a way to keep that CMC as flat as it was designed and modify your space rather than the machine.

John

The Gunnar mounting table is actually designed to be positioned in one of 3 ways... a flat tabletop configuration, a 30 degree incline like a draftsmans table but it can also be wall mounted at an incline of approx 30 degrees. I do completely agree with keeping it as flat as possible, but when many of us are restricted for space, having this capability is a great help and the only issue I find is that I am inclined to watch the process to ensure that cutouts dont fall into the path of the cutting head.. IMHO .. a small price to pay for the invaluable added space it creates

Here are two images of the Valiani Wall Mounting System.
The video will be placed up on Valiani Facebook page in the next couple of days.

that looks a really good sytem Merlin.. is that a standard wall mount kit for Valiani? might have to see if Gunnar coud do something similar

Video of Wallmount for Valiani CMC now placed on Valiani Facebook page