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Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Fri 10 Nov, 2017 12:32 pm
by Bagel Framer
Hello all,

I had an enquiry to frame a football shirt last night, but double sided so both sides of the shirt can be seen.

While i can see images of such frames on-line, I was wondering if anyone's ever done one and what was involved please?

Customer claims he has or is looking at a budget of £200 too, so seeing as I charge £150 for a normal shirt frame I might be walking away anyway.....

Thanks,

Sean

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Fri 10 Nov, 2017 1:45 pm
by JFeig
Not a good idea from a conservation viewpoint; however.

Place the shirt between 2 sheets of Perspex­­® acrylic with no mounting board or backing board that will form a direct contact pressure mount. Sew on 6 threads to the top of collar, shoulders, and arms and drape the threads over the top of the glazing so that there is some support from the top to avoid the effects of gravity. Close the frame with balsa wood square stock and press nails into the balsa through to the frame.

Old school baby!

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Fri 10 Nov, 2017 1:48 pm
by Steve N
Here is one I did earlier , like 2007 , T - Shirts , did 2 of them
https://www.theframersforum.com/viewtop ... t&start=40

Page 3 about 5th post up from the bottom,

Page 4 3rd post down is a diagram of the construction

Used museum glass and charged £500.00 each one, well that was then , now would charge £750 each

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Fri 10 Nov, 2017 2:28 pm
by Jamesnkr
JFeig wrote:Not a good idea from a conservation viewpoint; however.
It's a football shirt. Conservation?!

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Fri 10 Nov, 2017 8:01 pm
by JFeig
Just covering the bases.

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Fri 10 Nov, 2017 8:01 pm
by Not your average framer
I don't think there is much chance of any profit doing a job like that for only £200. Although £150 for framing a football shirt to see only one side is somewhere near the going rate. Doing the same thing with both sides glazed will involve a lot more than fifty pounds for the extra materials and labour.

This is a difficult and demanding job. Off the top of my head, I'd be surprised if anyone who knows how to do this would agree to do it for less than £350. It would look great if the shirt was fitted over a torso manakin, but I would expect this to be much more expensive, perhaps as much as £500.

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Sat 11 Nov, 2017 8:32 am
by Uncle Sumo
Choose a side. Blue or Red. Front or Back.

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Sat 11 Nov, 2017 1:29 pm
by Framie
I do it and offer it at £190.00. It's about the same work as single sided. Floating in the middle, not sandwiched.

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Sat 11 Nov, 2017 2:40 pm
by poliopete
I've just framed an enormous Rugby shirt signed all over including the sleeves :shock: I needed to place the former/template in two pieces and then join inside. Scarecrow shape type thing. As the customer wanted to see both sides It was framed along the lines of Steve N (no where near as classy though): My price how ever, was nearly as good as Steve's :D

My customer was delighted and more work has come from it.

Hi Framie :D as we are almost neighbours can you post a picture of your £190.00 framed shirt and a brief description of your method for that price :?: I realize you are in a city with more competition but even so £190.00 seems a very keen price.

I am ashamed to say I haven't a clue as to how to post a picture or even open "image" :oops: It's so frustrating.

Peter

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Sat 11 Nov, 2017 4:20 pm
by Framie
Hi Peter, I've done them a few ways, it's pretty easy to see from the photos what I've done.

Slots cut into the spacers for the formboard to slip into.
I either seal the back glass in place with silicon or just use framers points and tape over. I do use black tape now not the brown tape.

I've done without mounts too with AR glass which looks pretty cool.

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Sat 11 Nov, 2017 5:00 pm
by poliopete
Hi Framie, Thank you so much for that, more help than you realize :D

I've never thought of slots in the spacers for the foamboard in fact, I've never seen that method before either on youtube or in a book :!: can't wait to try it. I can see shirts could be done single sided as well as d/sided using your method - single/double/triple mounts no problem - just extend the foamboard former accordingly. Who say's you can't teach an old dog new tricks :giggle:

You are certainly giving your customers very good value for their money :clap:

Thanks again.

Peter

Re: Double sided Football Shirt Frame

Posted: Sat 11 Nov, 2017 5:50 pm
by Framie
Thanks, Peter, for a framing business called Anything Framed I can't get away with saying I can't frame that, I have to work out a way but also that it's quick, easy and reversible without damage.

Thankful I don't do too many shirts these days, years ago I was number 1 listing on google for 'Shirt framing' but got kicked out of that club. Thankfully I do more prints now that's more profitable at a realistic price.

And your welcome, glad it helped :D