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Violin
Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2011 10:53 pm
by Roboframer
Box is two boxes made from a flat ramin profile (Simons LES 0001) joined with pocket holes. Could have used flat battens but I had this in stock anyway and it gave me a rebate at the front for the outer frame (from the Larson Juhl 'Michelangelo' range) and a rebate at the back for the mounting board, (Arqadia suedette 'cabernet') which is bonded to 3mm foam board and, once the violin is mounted on that, will be bonded to 3mm AheMDF, for strength and to fill the rebate.
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I sanded off my first two attempts to match the finish on the moulding, I did match it quite well, but it looked naff over such a large flat area, you can see I tested on the inside first.
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Using super soft strand wire through the bracket on one end, thought I'd be clever and put some shrink tubing over it, which I painted (not very well) to match, but as you can see, I could have just painted the wire coating ... and will.
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All being well this will be completed tomorrow.
Re: Violin
Posted: Mon 14 Mar, 2011 5:54 pm
by Roboframer
Erm ..... I overlooked the bow, or should I say the size of it - it just about squeezes in that box without the spacers.
How I laughed when I realised I'd have to start all over again!
Re: Violin
Posted: Mon 14 Mar, 2011 6:06 pm
by easypopsgcf
Cut down the bow

Re: Violin
Posted: Mon 14 Mar, 2011 7:46 pm
by Nigel Nobody
Or you could pull the bow strings onto a nail so it looks like a bow that shoots arrows. That would shorten it a bit!
And I thought I was the only one who made dumb mistakes like that. You may feel annoyed about this John, but you've made me feel really good!
Thanks very much!
Done at last ..... almost!
Posted: Tue 22 Mar, 2011 9:44 pm
by Roboframer
There are 5 mounting points, 2 on the violin - the wire as shown in first post and a Meinex strap under the scroll, and 3 melinex straps on the bow, the flash caught the centre one.
The final fitting has yet to be done - flumb and glass smear NIGHTMARE! Wish my framer luck tomorrow, I'll be in Alderney until Sunday.
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Copious amounts of 5mm foam board strips before the final ones. lined with the same suedette board were fitted in to the outer frame rebate.
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The mounting points from the back.
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Re: Violin
Posted: Tue 22 Mar, 2011 10:38 pm
by Keadyart
Nice job Robo,
are the violin and bow mounted on a single mountboard only? And what did you use for backing?
Cheers
Brian
Re: Violin
Posted: Tue 22 Mar, 2011 10:41 pm
by Keadyart
D'oh,
just read original post,
Carry on.
Brian
Re: Violin
Posted: Tue 22 Mar, 2011 11:02 pm
by Roboframer
Roboframer wrote: the mounting board, (Arqadia suedette 'cabernet') ... is bonded to 3mm foam board and, once the violin is mounted on that, will be bonded to 3mm AheMDF, for strength and to fill the rebate
There was no need to bond the MDF to the mounting boards, which is good, because if ever this needs to be undone the MDF will lift away and then the exposed wire/melinex can be simply snipped/cut and (with a bit of tuning maybe) it's all ready to play Vivaldi's 'Spring'
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Re: Violin
Posted: Wed 23 Mar, 2011 8:05 am
by Comfyjumper
Beautiful.......................
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 10:18 am
by birdman
Robo, where did you get your pocket hole jig/joiner?
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 10:59 am
by Roboframer
I bought
this one from amazon plus a face clamp, it comes with one but it's not very big.
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 11:25 am
by birdman
Thanks Robo, I found the same one on Tooled Up.com
http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=29173
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 11:51 am
by Keadyart
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 12:01 pm
by birdman
Thanks KeadyArt, maybe I could come around and borrow your's

Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 12:14 pm
by Keadyart
You would be more than welcome,but I am only browsing,and liked the look of that one,put the kreg kit on my 'wish list' with a lot of other tools etc.
all the best
Brian
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 12:23 pm
by birdman
Ummm maybe if I drop a hint at home, 'cause it's nearly my birthday.
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 1:14 pm
by Keadyart
Yeah thats an idea,
I once left a certain SatNav on my favourites on the web(one I really wanted),when santa came I rec'd a satnav but not the one I 'really' wanted.So hints sometimes work,but I find if its a specific make model you want,buy it yourself,then you can't blame anyone else.
All the best
Brian
Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 3:40 pm
by birdman
Well I know which one I want and so do you Brian - did I tell you it was my birthday> Wotcha getting me??

Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 8:05 pm
by MITREMAN
I want one I want, thats on my list to
Thats just the tool I need when I have to make boxes of 5 or more inches deep as I have to frame lots of boxing gloves.
Robo have you tried a 6inch Foam roller on your flat box section finishes, they can give a really good finish and cheap as chips.
Violin looks great,how long did it take and what did you charge if you don't mind me asking.
May have to be careful as the stains can melts some foam with spirit based products better to use a water based quick drying product.
I have made a few wired brackets with wire and shrink tubing for large objects, you can bend them into shape and cover with shrink tubing (shrink with a hot air gun, you can also warm the wire to make it easier to shape) and push through your mountboard insert into a 5mm foam board or a plastic flutted board and seal it into the board with 2 part eproxy resin to make a stirdy bracket that's base is embebbed in resin in the board.
The the object can be clipped in and out as required, lets say your violin needed to be played at some point then this method would work and you could soon make a frame and glass door.
Do you ever use barrel hinges on door frames?
Regards
Mitreman

Re: Violin
Posted: Fri 08 Apr, 2011 9:32 pm
by Roboframer
I do have mini foam rollers and the 'mop' type too; I used a sponge applicator for the base stain.
I didn't time it, but hands on and forgetting the balls up, no more than a couple of hours. Making and finishing (without drying time) the box took the longest, after that it's quite simple, mounting the violin/bow was faster than lacing an average piece of needlework.
Here's the cost - in a topic no-one's answered yet
http://theframersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6351
The wired brackets you refer to are also known as 'formed rods' and there's some great step by steps in Jim Millers book - including a violin.
I've never made a hinged door - plenty of slip-over frames though.