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Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 11:32 am
by HTF
Hi there,

I hope I find you all well this Monday Morning.

I have a customer looking for a double-sided frame for a vinyl record as he can't decide which side he'd like to be shown. I'll need to make two 12" frames and bond them together but does anybody have any ideas on how to secure the glass on both sides with the framers points hidden. I'd like like to somehow not use a mount if possible.
Any advice is most welcome, thanks in advance

Best Regards
M

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 11:56 am
by easypopsgcf
Clear silicon will hold the glass without the need for framers points............just a very fine line around the rebate as you dont want it squeezing out and getting onto the face of the frame............do it the night before you want to assemble it and once its set the glass will not move. Job done 8)

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 12:39 pm
by Roboframer
Wwwwwwwwwelcome to The Forum!


As you'll be able to see the frames' rebates you'll probably want to cover them and can kill two birds with one stone.

Cover foam board strips with mount board, colour of your/customer''s choice. Make the strips the exact depth of the rebates minus 2 sheets of glass. Clean one piece of glass, drop it in a frame, stick the strips in so that you have a box poking out and drop the other piece of glass/frame over that.

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 1:03 pm
by prospero
Rather than do a double-sided frame, why not fit a removable back so that he can flip the LP and mount over whenever he wants to display the other side. :)

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 1:48 pm
by HTF
Thanks for the speedy replies.

The clear silicone will work perfectly.

Thanks again

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:01 pm
by Vince442
The silicone will work but I believe the suggestion from Roboframer will give a better finish :)

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:10 pm
by easypopsgcf
I didn't suggest using a mount for one reason only..........something the OP stated...........and perhaps he has thought of covering the rebate or colouring it?
I'd like like to somehow not use a mount if possible.

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:40 pm
by Roboframer
It's not a mount, it's a glass spacer concealed by the frame lip that doubles up to conceal the rebate and the joins.

You could silicone-seal that as well; I wouldn't.

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:47 pm
by HTF
I will also try Robframers method.
"stick the strips in so that you have a box poking out" - could you elaborate this part please
Go raibh maith agat

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:50 pm
by easypopsgcf
I know exactly what you mean mate, having used this and many variations on numerous occasions..................but i think if this method was adopted here, there would be a space between the 2 bits of glass, which would then give the OP the problem of how to secure an LP without the use of a mount to stabilise it.
My guess is he wants to sandwich it between the 2 bits of glass? , whichn won't be that simple either unless the frames only have 2mm rebates.
I wasn't trying to cast aspersions :roll:

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:54 pm
by HTF
Aye, I would like to sandwich the record between 2 sheets of glass but will come up against too much idol space within the rebate

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 4:01 pm
by Roboframer
easypopsgcf wrote:I wasn't trying to cast aspersions
I know, I know - both methods would have the glass the same distance apart and for that reason I wasn't imagining the record touching the glass and I'd strongly recommend you don't do that.

But if you must then the spacers would still work - just have them on the outside - spacer-glass-record-glass-spacer.

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 8:37 pm
by Roboframer
........ or of course it could go - glass, spacer, record, spacer, glass, then the record wouldn't touch the glass. The spacers would conceal parts of the edge of the record, but so would the lip of the frame if you were close-framing it.

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 10:19 pm
by Roboframer
HTF wrote: I'd like like to somehow not use a mount if possible.
Why?

Back-to-back reverse bevelled mounts would hold it securely, keep it away from the glass and would look a whole lot better than the wall it's hanging on visible through the glass.

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Fri 01 Jul, 2011 10:54 pm
by Moglet
Fáilte go dti an Forum, HTF. :)

FWIW, I'd go with Robo's suggestion of the reverse-bevelled mounts with the LP in between them.

Re: Double-Sided Frame

Posted: Sat 02 Jul, 2011 9:07 am
by Not your average framer
If you have a CMC you could cut the spacers with parallel sides, but a slight curve along the full length of these spacers, so that the would be a little gentle pressure to stop the glass from rattling.

How are you going to fasten the two halves of the frame together? Rare earth magnets are one possible method.