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Help - A photographer friend of mine is getting into framing - long story - don't ask...

Anyway - he is the sort of person who "keeps asking questions" & he is "doing my head in"

I have pointed him in the right direction as far as his "kit" is concerned...
I have told him who I would recommend for training...
I have got him copies of all the wholesalers catalogues...
I have filled him in on pricing programs...
I have given him a stack of old framing magazines to browse through for ideas & techniques...
I have explained all the options on glass...
I have been through all the mountboard & backing board options...

This morning he has sent me a text saying "Steve - when you a minute can you explain all the moulding types"... Yeh right - give me a minute

So - I am looking for some internet links that explain about...
Wood types for framing...
Moulding shapes - along with their names & uses...
Moulding finishes...
etc...

To get him off my back on such a lovely weekend - HELP!!!

That's an easy one, Steve.

Just give him this.

And this: http://theframersforum.com/pmwiki/pmwik ... filestyles

and this: http://theframersforum.com/pmwiki/pmwik ... ctureFrame

JohnMcafee wrote:That's an easy one, Steve.

Just give him this.

OMG

I am not going to let him on here until he starts making sense

I like you lot too much

David McCormack wrote:And this: http://theframersforum.com/pmwiki/pmwik ... filestyles

and this: http://theframersforum.com/pmwiki/pmwik ... ctureFrame

Hey David - great links - I never knew they were there

Now I know he is going to ask me...

"what are the pros & cons with each of these"...

Obeche
Ramin
Oak
Ash
Pine

Is he near to any trade suppliers with showroom he could browse? e.g. Wessex Pictures, Mainline Mouldings, Ashworth & Thompson etc. I am sure if he is a potential customer they would give him a bit of time.

It's slightly confusing learning the moulding profile types as different people tend to have their own personal terms which may not coincide with others....

Take for example the Oracle chart. The 'fluted slip'. I would call that a liner - it has a rebate. Also I think 'fluted' as a pattern of transverse grooves. I call that edge 'coved'.

What's the difference between a 'spoon' and a 'scoop'? Not a lot as far as I can tell.


At the end of the day, you don't actually need to know names for mouldings. Although it does allow you to appear knowledgeable to the uninitiated.

prospero wrote:At the end of the day, you don't actually need to know names for mouldings. Although it does allow you to appear knowledgeable to the uninitiated.

Yip - that sounds like him!!!

I didn’t know about the Framing Oracle either Steve. Only came across it because I was searching googly! It seems like the Oracle could do with more framing articles and maybe we should all contribute?

I particularly like these two entries for Flumb and Rep

http://theframersforum.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.F
http://theframersforum.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.R

As for those five different types of wood they basically fall into two categories: hard and soft. Pine and obeche are both soft, being easy to cut and underpin using normal wedges. Oak and ash are both hard and more difficult to cut & join and require hardwood wedges on the underpinner. Pine & obeche come in a wider range of profiles, are good for finishes like painting and gilding and also are commonly used for pre-finished mouldings. Oak is lovely as is and suits simple finishes like clear wax or a lime wax. Ash also suits lime wax and is good for painting also. As for Ramin, I think that was considered a good all rounder for framing but is not so easily available now because of over use, but not sure? Beech is also a nice wood and suits a clear wax because of it’s colour. Others that I’m not that familiar with are wenge (very hard), walnut, maple and cherry.

"Beech, Oak, Chestnut, Ash. Good, good, good. Many have come. Now we must decide if the Ents will go to war......"

just tell him you deal in sticky stuff not the 4 bits of wood

Pine is a hard softwood and Obeche is soft hardwood.