Cold in the workshop

AllFramed · Post by **AllFramed** » Sun 20 Jan, 2013 6:26 pm

Popped into the workshop this afternoon. It was cold cold cold. I have an oil filled heater that cuts in so that it doesn't freeze, but it is still cold. Got me wondering whether the cold does any damage to any framing materials such as glues, paints, laminates, tapes etc. Then I thought at this time of year, most storage warehouses will probably be consistently cold for longer. The heating goes up when I am working in there so materials are generally not used in such temperatures. Do you think the cold affects the lifespan and usability of these products?

IFGL · Post by **IFGL** » Sun 20 Jan, 2013 7:02 pm

They usually give storage instructions on data sheets for the products, there is usually a part that says store between blah and blah, like you I have heating on to take the chill off the air, while we are not in.

Bagpuss · Post by **Bagpuss** » Sun 20 Jan, 2013 9:09 pm

I'm quite lucky in that I have a Workshop attached to the house and it has a radiator so mountboard never gets too cold but I have noticed that my sheets of glass that are stored leaning against one side of the garage door do get pretty cold. I think that when the glass is too cold and I try to cut it on the Excalibur it won't always "snap" down the scored line and it breaks off at an angle

Has anyone else noticed glass cutting problems when it's cold ?

Jonny2morsos · Post by **Jonny2morsos** » Sun 20 Jan, 2013 11:49 pm

Yes, I used to get glass delivered on a Monday morning and was having problems in the cold weather. I then realised the supplier was loading the van on Friday afternoon and it stood in the van over the weekend.

To overcome this I would take the first sheet and leave it on the Keencut with a fan heater blowing on it until I needed to cut a piece.

IFGL · Post by **IFGL** » Mon 21 Jan, 2013 5:36 am

Yep us too, glass wheels seem to last longer in the warm too.

Gesso gets more crumbly in the cold too. my knees are definitely slower and creak more.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon 21 Jan, 2013 11:44 am

I always bring my glass in from shed outside and leave it for a good half hour before cutting, if i can in front of a gentle heat source.

Dave

strokebloke · Post by **strokebloke** » Mon 21 Jan, 2013 12:05 pm

Glues, adhesives on tapes, and paints also change in characteristic during cold weather.
Shelf life is reduced and warranties etc are effectively nullified, if used in condition outside those specified by the manufacturer/supplier.
Timber (framing) also becomes more brittle in extremes of cold weather and less amenable to adhesive penetration.
Anything above about 4-5 degrees F should be OK though, for modern materials

Post by **prospero** » Mon 21 Jan, 2013 12:55 pm

I just been out to get some moulding from the shed and it's actually quite cosy in there.

I'll think I'll move in.

Bagpuss · Post by **Bagpuss** » Fri 01 Feb, 2013 11:29 am

Bagpuss wrote:I'm quite lucky in that I have a Workshop attached to the house and it has a radiator so mountboard never gets too cold but I have noticed that my sheets of glass that are stored leaning against one side of the garage door do get pretty cold. I think that when the glass is too cold and I try to cut it on the Excalibur it won't always "snap" down the scored line and it breaks off at an angle Has anyone else noticed glass cutting problems when it's cold ?

Ignore the previous comments about breaking glass in the cold ... it's amazing how well glass cuts when you replace the cutting wheel on the Excalibur

Have just ordered a few spares, I'll be changing the wheel more regularly from now on.

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Sun 03 Feb, 2013 6:03 pm

I noticed the mount cutter altered slightly in the cold, it was undercutting compared with warmer conditions. Struck me that metals expand in the heat and contract in the cold (remembered from O Level physics).

Not a problem now as I rent a workshop that includes all heating and electric.

Graysalchemy · Post by **Graysalchemy** » Sun 03 Feb, 2013 8:15 pm

Wish mine included heating.

My office is regularly 5-6c and that is the warmest part of the building, goodness knows what the rest of the workshop is. I have taken to wearing thermals, 4 jumpers and two coats and huddle next to a halogen heater.

It is positively warmer outside my workshop in winter than inside. I open the shutters and doors to let the heat in.

IFGL · Post by **IFGL** » Sun 03 Feb, 2013 8:35 pm

The new shop is centrally heated, Including both workshops and the cellars, just sayin

although its probably gonna cost an arm and a leg.

Graysalchemy · Post by **Graysalchemy** » Sun 03 Feb, 2013 9:01 pm

Its not worth my while trying to heat 3500sq ft

IFGL · Post by **IFGL** » Sun 03 Feb, 2013 9:14 pm

We have well over 4000 sq ft including the heated cellars, like I said arm and leg removal time,

stcstc · Post by **stcstc** » Sun 03 Feb, 2013 9:17 pm

my shop is always to hot, and never have the heating on. but....... all the kit in the place warms the place

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