Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
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Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
Hi everyone i hope its ok to post this .
My dad had his own framing business in a small unit but he suffers from glaucoma and during lockdown he didn't see the eye doctor and his vision deteriorated quite badly he had an operation but it was only able to save the vision he has .
Unfortunately he can't do the framing again the unit has been sitting unused since before lockdown so we have decided to sell the equipment there was a leak from the roof and some of plant chest got dampness back left corner and it could do with a refurb rest of equipment is fine as was on other side of the room and was covered
Location Johnstone near paisley scotland here's pictures of whats there and if anyone could help me price them up thanks
Any questions please ask .
Heres some pictures
My dad had his own framing business in a small unit but he suffers from glaucoma and during lockdown he didn't see the eye doctor and his vision deteriorated quite badly he had an operation but it was only able to save the vision he has .
Unfortunately he can't do the framing again the unit has been sitting unused since before lockdown so we have decided to sell the equipment there was a leak from the roof and some of plant chest got dampness back left corner and it could do with a refurb rest of equipment is fine as was on other side of the room and was covered
Location Johnstone near paisley scotland here's pictures of whats there and if anyone could help me price them up thanks
Any questions please ask .
Heres some pictures
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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
It'll all depend on the condition of each item and you can look in the adverts / sales / wants section of the forum or on eBay to see what each is worth.
You could maybe try and sell everything as a job lot for £2000 or price machines individually.
You could maybe try and sell everything as a job lot for £2000 or price machines individually.
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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
I don't know that there is necessarily an exact secondhard price for any of these items. Some people seem to be able to sell such items for much more that what others sell the same items for. I will suggest to you some prices, based up on what I have seen such things advertised for, maybe you need to get other peoples opinions as well, to get a better idea of what things usually go for.
The System 4000 is no longer supported for spare parts by the manufacturer and this quite naturally has a significant effect upon it's perceived value. I have seen some of these sell for £250, but there are cases of people asking more as well. I think that £250 seems like a reasonable price to me, but like they say, that's only an opinion.
The CS-88 underpinner is a well respected machine. I have had two of these, one after the other. The first one was a secondhand and fairly early machine, which I bought for £250 and I would say that at the time it was a bit of a bargain. Even now that is probably quite cheap.
The CS-79 is an entry level underpinner and depending upon age and condition might be worth £200 to perhaps £350. I had a new CS-79 back in 2004 and from memory it was maybe £650 as new. While they remain in good condition they will retain a certain amount of their value for a reasonably good length of time.
The Moso is probably the best of the bunch for saleability. I paid £400 for as secondhand in about 2004 and it would easily still be a bargain at that price today. Most Morso model F probably are offered for between £450 and maybe £750, but what possible buyers negociate as the actual buying price may well be a little different.
I also spotted an older Keencut ultimat. They don't fetch much these days as you can no longer get many of the spare parts for these any more. It may be hard to find a buyer for an original ulimat these days. I don't know what these would sell for these days, so I would be making a wild guess. You might get some interest if you tried to sell the ultimat at £100, but like I said it's only a guess, so not mecessarily very meaningful!
Less necessary items may not be all that easy to sell, as people starting off without them may be able to manage without them as first!
The System 4000 is no longer supported for spare parts by the manufacturer and this quite naturally has a significant effect upon it's perceived value. I have seen some of these sell for £250, but there are cases of people asking more as well. I think that £250 seems like a reasonable price to me, but like they say, that's only an opinion.
The CS-88 underpinner is a well respected machine. I have had two of these, one after the other. The first one was a secondhand and fairly early machine, which I bought for £250 and I would say that at the time it was a bit of a bargain. Even now that is probably quite cheap.
The CS-79 is an entry level underpinner and depending upon age and condition might be worth £200 to perhaps £350. I had a new CS-79 back in 2004 and from memory it was maybe £650 as new. While they remain in good condition they will retain a certain amount of their value for a reasonably good length of time.
The Moso is probably the best of the bunch for saleability. I paid £400 for as secondhand in about 2004 and it would easily still be a bargain at that price today. Most Morso model F probably are offered for between £450 and maybe £750, but what possible buyers negociate as the actual buying price may well be a little different.
I also spotted an older Keencut ultimat. They don't fetch much these days as you can no longer get many of the spare parts for these any more. It may be hard to find a buyer for an original ulimat these days. I don't know what these would sell for these days, so I would be making a wild guess. You might get some interest if you tried to sell the ultimat at £100, but like I said it's only a guess, so not mecessarily very meaningful!
Less necessary items may not be all that easy to sell, as people starting off without them may be able to manage without them as first!
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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
I would ditch the plan chest, if there's any signs of mould it's no longer suitable for storing artwork.
The under table mountboard storage must be worth £100-200.
I agree with Mark, his price ranges sound fair.
Have a look on Ebay using the Completed/Items Sold tabs and you'll be able to see what things have actually sold for recently.
The under table mountboard storage must be worth £100-200.
I agree with Mark, his price ranges sound fair.
Have a look on Ebay using the Completed/Items Sold tabs and you'll be able to see what things have actually sold for recently.
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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
Potential customers may try to get you to drop your prices, if they buy more that one item. This is quite a common tactic, but it may leave you seriously out of pocket, if you do not have your wits about you. Be very careful to ensure that you know what you are willing to do before you decide what to sell these items for!
All the best,
Mark.
All the best,
Mark.
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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
Those plan chests are VERY expensive to buy new so I wouldn't let the mouldy bit lessen the price too much. It could easily be fixed
up and the drawer bottoms replaced if necessary. I'm thinking about £400 would be a good buy for someone. If I had room I'd have had it.
up and the drawer bottoms replaced if necessary. I'm thinking about £400 would be a good buy for someone. If I had room I'd have had it.

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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
It depends on how much time you have to dedicate to getting them sold.
On the surface of what I can see from the photos, the main bits of equipment, the plan chest and workbench are probably worth around £2000 to someone who wants to start up from scratch. Presumably there's some hand tools, and a bit of stock too. In which case £2000 for someone to come and take away the whole lot may be the best option for you.
Otherwise, if you advertise each item individually, and manage to sell everything you might end up with a couple of hundred quid extra, but it could take some time.
Agree on the plan chest - looks easy enough to fix.
On the surface of what I can see from the photos, the main bits of equipment, the plan chest and workbench are probably worth around £2000 to someone who wants to start up from scratch. Presumably there's some hand tools, and a bit of stock too. In which case £2000 for someone to come and take away the whole lot may be the best option for you.
Otherwise, if you advertise each item individually, and manage to sell everything you might end up with a couple of hundred quid extra, but it could take some time.
Agree on the plan chest - looks easy enough to fix.
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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
Thanks everyone il have a look at the plan chest this weekend and see if i can remove the mould.
Appreciate all the advice il try sell all in one need and open to offers if anyone wants to buy seperate il try get more pictures aswell .
Appreciate all the advice il try sell all in one need and open to offers if anyone wants to buy seperate il try get more pictures aswell .
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Re: Looking for help with pricing my dads framing equipment to sell
Mould can survive almost everything except heat. Cleaning the area with a mixture of water, washing up liquid and bleach, will help to remove some of what is on the surface, but also it will supress it for a short while it will not kill either the mould, or even the mould spores in the cleaning fluid. It will still be necessary to apply some very serious level of heat to the area with a hot air paint stripping gun and that heat needs to be too hot to touch for more than just a few seconds.
Although the temperature of boiling water will evenually kill mould, don't think that it doesn't take time. Afterwards seal the wood with an oil based varnish thinned down with white spirit to help it penetrate into the wood. This should prevent any active mould within the wood from being able to be reactivated. I hope that this will help to get you plan chest into really good and saleable condition! You will need enough white spirit added to the varnish to see that it is being absorbed well into the wood.
Although the temperature of boiling water will evenually kill mould, don't think that it doesn't take time. Afterwards seal the wood with an oil based varnish thinned down with white spirit to help it penetrate into the wood. This should prevent any active mould within the wood from being able to be reactivated. I hope that this will help to get you plan chest into really good and saleable condition! You will need enough white spirit added to the varnish to see that it is being absorbed well into the wood.
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